First limit hand for analysis

Oni5000Oni5000
in Online Poker
Hey,

I've started playing 0.10/0.20 limit at sporting bet to clear their 500 hand bonus.  Here's my first hand for analysis...is this just something I should get used to in limit?  How should I have played this?
Hand #109309235  at table: Table TH Mini
Started: Sat Oct 01 03:00:37 2005

RiverMouse is at seat 1 with 19.20
lunsan88 is at seat 2 with 6.30
celocan is at seat 3 with 3.95
gameplaye1 is at seat 4 with 7.16
Denverfd is at seat 5 with 5.87
mama35 is at seat 6 with 5.54
smadadi is at seat 7 with 6.34
StSaens is at seat 8 with 7.33
luoyite is at seat 9 with 10.74
_pinjer_ is at seat 10 with 1.45

gameplaye1 posts the large blind 0.10
celocan posts the small blind 0.05

celocan: --, --
gameplaye1: --, --
Denverfd: --, --
mama35: --, --
smadadi: As, Ac
StSaens: --, --
luoyite: --, --
_pinjer_: --, --
RiverMouse: --, --
lunsan88: --, --

Pre-flop:

Denverfd: Call 0.10
mama35: Call 0.10
smadadi: Raise  0.20
StSaens: Call 0.20
luoyite: Fold
_pinjer_: Call 0.20
RiverMouse: Fold
lunsan88: Call 0.20
celocan: Call 0.20
gameplaye1: Call 0.20
Denverfd: Call 0.20
mama35: Call 0.20

Flop (Board: 4h, 9s, Jd):

celocan: Check
gameplaye1: Bet  0.10
Denverfd: Call 0.10
mama35: Call 0.10
smadadi: Raise  0.20
StSaens: Call 0.20
_pinjer_: Fold
lunsan88: Call 0.20
celocan: Call 0.20
gameplaye1: Call 0.20
Denverfd: Fold
mama35: Call 0.20

Turn (Board: 4h, 9s, Jd, 5c):

celocan: Check
gameplaye1: Bet  0.20
mama35: Fold
smadadi: Raise  0.40
StSaens: Call 0.40
lunsan88: Fold
celocan: Call 0.40
gameplaye1: Call 0.40

River (Board: 4h, 9s, Jd, 5c, 8c):

celocan: Check
gameplaye1: Bet  0.20
smadadi: Raise  0.40
StSaens: Fold
celocan: Call 0.40
gameplaye1: Call 0.40

Showdown:

smadadi shows: As, Ac (a pair of Aces)
celocan shows: 5s, Js (two pair, Jacks and Fives)

Mainpot:
celocan wins the pot of 5.42 with two pair, Jacks and Fives

(0.28 rake were taken for this hand)

Comments

  • BBC ZBBC Z
    Some points..

    1) The players at sportingbet are amazingly bad. 9 to the flop, 9 to the river is the norm.

    2) Playing Pocket aces will never be the biggest leak in your game

    3) The only raise I dislike is the river, you only have one pair, likely not going to win against any hand that will call a raise.

    4) Yes you will lose with aces. get over it.
  • Oni5000Oni5000
    BBC Z wrote:
    Some points..

    1) The players at sportingbet are amazingly bad. 9 to the flop, 9 to the river is the norm.

    2) Playing Pocket aces will never be the biggest leak in your game

    3) The only raise I dislike is the river, you only have one pair, likely not going to win against any hand that will call a raise.

    4) Yes you will lose with aces. get over it.

    Well, it's a good thing they are bad..i'm trying to learn how to beat bad live players...besides, if I can't beat bad players, what good am I?

    So everything was good, except the raise on the river? I figured I was up against a pair of jacks at best...is there any scenario where raising on the river with 1 pair makes sense?
  • BBC ZBBC Z
    Well, it's a good thing they are bad..i'm trying to learn how to beat bad live players...besides, if I can't beat bad players, what good am I?

    These players are in like another universe of bad.. You won't experience games like that anywhere else on the internet. I warn because the variance of these games is tilt inducing.
    .is there any scenario where raising on the river with 1 pair makes sense?

    It depends :-).. Depends on the action on all the previous streets and the player types that are involved in the hand.
  • SirWattsSirWatts
    I agree with BBC just calling the river looks best. The rest is good.
  • CrazyJoe113CrazyJoe113
    Oni5000 wrote:


    So everything was good, except the raise on the river?  I figured I was up against a pair of jacks at best...is there any scenario where raising on the river with 1 pair makes sense?

    when you are 5 handed at the river, one pair probably isn't the best hand
  • the_mainthe_main
    i dont think i can remember ever being 5 handed at the river :)
  • PokerKaiPokerKai
    Couple thoughts...

    1. I like every street except the river raise. I call

    2. Im suprised nobody has said something along the lines of "You cant beat a 20cent/40cent game, everybody calls you dont to the river!" or "You cant bluff in a 20cent/40cent game"
  • Big EBig E
    PokerKai wrote:
    2. Im suprised nobody has said something along the lines of "You cant beat a 20cent/40cent game, everybody calls you dont to the river!" or "You cant bluff in a 20cent/40cent game"

    one thing is for sure....It'll sure be tough to clear your bonus at this level?
  • moosemoose
    PokerKai wrote:
    Couple thoughts...

    1. I like every street except the river raise.  I call

    2. Im suprised nobody has said something along the lines of "You cant beat a 20cent/40cent game, everybody calls you dont to the river!" or "You cant bluff in a 20cent/40cent game"


    Probably because this is a .10/.20 game... :D
  • Oni5000Oni5000
    Alright...so here's what i've learned...

    1. Barring any extraordinary reads (which im not even going to attempt to make), one pair on the river does not justify a raise, especially when not heads up at the river
    2. This type of thing will happen a lot at low limit and should be expected, nothing to get mad about
    3. Pairs in general should be played cautiously in limit and not overvalued

    As for clearing the bonus, it's a $100 for 500 raked hands, regardless of the amount of rake contributed, so i'm cool with it taking a little while as I'm mainly aiming to learn limit anyway...
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