PS Omaha Limit Tourney - two suckouts in a row to get knocked out
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Well half this post is maybe to get some sympathy (might not be deserved with the mistakes I made), the other to comment on my play, where if any I could have scared anyone away (I highly doubt it), or just in general played better... Table is very loose and lotsa big stacks at my table including number 1 and 2, I'm in about 30th with 70 left (out of 2900), top 27 get invite to $1000 tourney (yeah it's just a freeroll). Okay not a big deal but I've only been working on my Omaha for a couple of months and I'm pretty proud of myself. There are two instances where I commented that would have kept me alive with 12k in chips... anywhere else you think I misplayed?
PokerStars Game #2666656722: Tournament #12956643, Omaha Limit - Level XIII (3000/6000) - 2005/09/26 - 17:28:24 (ET)
Table '12956643 185' Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: BBaggins (9087 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 2: punkinbug (70214 in chips)
Seat 3: ALF 47 (39981 in chips)
Seat 4: JABRDENI (37386 in chips)
Seat 5: roooja (226282 in chips)
Seat 6: nahoj1 (63854 in chips)
Seat 8: SCXpunk (242394 in chips)
Seat 9: eightoften (36328 in chips)
BBaggins: posts small blind 1500
punkinbug: posts big blind 3000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to eightoften [:kc :jc :3c :kh]
ALF 47: folds
JABRDENI: folds
roooja: calls 3000
nahoj1: calls 3000
SCXpunk: calls 3000
eightoften: calls 3000
BBaggins: folds
punkinbug: checks
*** FLOP *** [:6h :jd :ks]
punkinbug: checks
roooja: checks
nahoj1: checks
SCXpunk: checks
eightoften: bets 3000
punkinbug: calls 3000
roooja: calls 3000
nahoj1: calls 3000
SCXpunk: calls 3000
*** TURN *** [:6h :jd :ks] [:9c] rainbow, great, but already worried about Q10, check?
punkinbug: checks
roooja: checks
nahoj1: checks
SCXpunk: checks
eightoften: bets 6000
punkinbug: folds
roooja: calls 6000
nahoj1: calls 6000
SCXpunk: folds
*** RIVER *** [:6h :jd :ks :9c] [:10c]
roooja: checks
nahoj1: bets 6000 ALARM WHY DON'T I FOLD
eightoften: calls 6000
roooja: calls 6000
*** SHOW DOWN ***
nahoj1: shows [:qd :ah :4s :8h] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
eightoften said, "meh"
eightoften: mucks hand
roooja: mucks hand
nahoj1 collected 67500 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 67500 | Rake 0
Board [6h Jd Ks 9c Tc]
Seat 1: BBaggins (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: punkinbug (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 3: ALF 47 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: JABRDENI folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: roooja mucked [Qh 7c Kd 2d]
Seat 6: nahoj1 showed [Qd Ah 4s 8h] and won (67500) with a straight, Ten to Ace
Seat 8: SCXpunk folded on the Turn
Seat 9: eightoften (button) mucked [Kc Jc 3c Kh]
PokerStars Game #2666666962: Tournament #12956643, Omaha Limit - Level XIII (3000/6000) - 2005/09/26 - 17:29:50 (ET)
Table '12956643 185' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: BBaggins (7587 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 2: punkinbug (64214 in chips)
Seat 3: ALF 47 (39981 in chips)
Seat 4: JABRDENI (37386 in chips)
Seat 5: roooja (208282 in chips)
Seat 6: nahoj1 (113354 in chips)
Seat 8: SCXpunk (236394 in chips)
Seat 9: eightoften (18328 in chips)
punkinbug: posts small blind 1500
ALF 47: posts big blind 3000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to eightoften [:ah :kh :qh :8h]
JABRDENI: folds
roooja: calls 3000
nahoj1: calls 3000
SCXpunk: calls 3000
eightoften: calls 3000
BBaggins: folds
punkinbug: calls 1500
ALF 47: checks
*** FLOP *** [:4h :3h :9s]
punkinbug: checks
ALF 47: checks
roooja: bets 3000
nahoj1: calls 3000
SCXpunk: calls 3000
eightoften: calls 3000 Raise?
punkinbug: folds
ALF 47: folds
*** TURN *** [:4h :3h :9s] [:2h]
roooja: checks
nahoj1: checks
SCXpunk: checks
eightoften: bets 6000
roooja: calls 6000
SEEK_ONE is connected
nahoj1: folds
SCXpunk: folds
*** RIVER *** [:4h :3h :9s :2h] [:9h]
roooja: checks
eightoften: bets 6000
roooja: raises 6000 to 12000 ANOTHER ALARM, I KNOW IT'S A BOAT - TOO PISSED TO CARE - Maybe should have checked the board pairing first and saved my last 6328 if he bet
eightoften: calls 328 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
roooja: shows [:jd :9d :4d :6d] (a full house, Nines full of Fours)
eightoften: shows [Ah Kh Qh 8h] (a flush, Ace high)
eightoften said, "sigh"
roooja collected 54656 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 54656 | Rake 0
Board [4h 3h 9s 2h 9h]
Seat 1: BBaggins (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: punkinbug (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: ALF 47 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: JABRDENI folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: roooja showed [Jd 9d 4d 6d] and won (54656) with a full house, Nines full of Fours
Seat 6: nahoj1 folded on the Turn
Seat 8: SCXpunk folded on the Turn
Seat 9: eightoften showed [Ah Kh Qh 8h] and lost with a flush, Ace high
PokerStars Game #2666656722: Tournament #12956643, Omaha Limit - Level XIII (3000/6000) - 2005/09/26 - 17:28:24 (ET)
Table '12956643 185' Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: BBaggins (9087 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 2: punkinbug (70214 in chips)
Seat 3: ALF 47 (39981 in chips)
Seat 4: JABRDENI (37386 in chips)
Seat 5: roooja (226282 in chips)
Seat 6: nahoj1 (63854 in chips)
Seat 8: SCXpunk (242394 in chips)
Seat 9: eightoften (36328 in chips)
BBaggins: posts small blind 1500
punkinbug: posts big blind 3000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to eightoften [:kc :jc :3c :kh]
ALF 47: folds
JABRDENI: folds
roooja: calls 3000
nahoj1: calls 3000
SCXpunk: calls 3000
eightoften: calls 3000
BBaggins: folds
punkinbug: checks
*** FLOP *** [:6h :jd :ks]
punkinbug: checks
roooja: checks
nahoj1: checks
SCXpunk: checks
eightoften: bets 3000
punkinbug: calls 3000
roooja: calls 3000
nahoj1: calls 3000
SCXpunk: calls 3000
*** TURN *** [:6h :jd :ks] [:9c] rainbow, great, but already worried about Q10, check?
punkinbug: checks
roooja: checks
nahoj1: checks
SCXpunk: checks
eightoften: bets 6000
punkinbug: folds
roooja: calls 6000
nahoj1: calls 6000
SCXpunk: folds
*** RIVER *** [:6h :jd :ks :9c] [:10c]
roooja: checks
nahoj1: bets 6000 ALARM WHY DON'T I FOLD
eightoften: calls 6000
roooja: calls 6000
*** SHOW DOWN ***
nahoj1: shows [:qd :ah :4s :8h] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
eightoften said, "meh"
eightoften: mucks hand
roooja: mucks hand
nahoj1 collected 67500 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 67500 | Rake 0
Board [6h Jd Ks 9c Tc]
Seat 1: BBaggins (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: punkinbug (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 3: ALF 47 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: JABRDENI folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: roooja mucked [Qh 7c Kd 2d]
Seat 6: nahoj1 showed [Qd Ah 4s 8h] and won (67500) with a straight, Ten to Ace
Seat 8: SCXpunk folded on the Turn
Seat 9: eightoften (button) mucked [Kc Jc 3c Kh]
PokerStars Game #2666666962: Tournament #12956643, Omaha Limit - Level XIII (3000/6000) - 2005/09/26 - 17:29:50 (ET)
Table '12956643 185' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: BBaggins (7587 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 2: punkinbug (64214 in chips)
Seat 3: ALF 47 (39981 in chips)
Seat 4: JABRDENI (37386 in chips)
Seat 5: roooja (208282 in chips)
Seat 6: nahoj1 (113354 in chips)
Seat 8: SCXpunk (236394 in chips)
Seat 9: eightoften (18328 in chips)
punkinbug: posts small blind 1500
ALF 47: posts big blind 3000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to eightoften [:ah :kh :qh :8h]
JABRDENI: folds
roooja: calls 3000
nahoj1: calls 3000
SCXpunk: calls 3000
eightoften: calls 3000
BBaggins: folds
punkinbug: calls 1500
ALF 47: checks
*** FLOP *** [:4h :3h :9s]
punkinbug: checks
ALF 47: checks
roooja: bets 3000
nahoj1: calls 3000
SCXpunk: calls 3000
eightoften: calls 3000 Raise?
punkinbug: folds
ALF 47: folds
*** TURN *** [:4h :3h :9s] [:2h]
roooja: checks
nahoj1: checks
SCXpunk: checks
eightoften: bets 6000
roooja: calls 6000
SEEK_ONE is connected
nahoj1: folds
SCXpunk: folds
*** RIVER *** [:4h :3h :9s :2h] [:9h]
roooja: checks
eightoften: bets 6000
roooja: raises 6000 to 12000 ANOTHER ALARM, I KNOW IT'S A BOAT - TOO PISSED TO CARE - Maybe should have checked the board pairing first and saved my last 6328 if he bet
eightoften: calls 328 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
roooja: shows [:jd :9d :4d :6d] (a full house, Nines full of Fours)
eightoften: shows [Ah Kh Qh 8h] (a flush, Ace high)
eightoften said, "sigh"
roooja collected 54656 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 54656 | Rake 0
Board [4h 3h 9s 2h 9h]
Seat 1: BBaggins (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: punkinbug (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: ALF 47 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: JABRDENI folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: roooja showed [Jd 9d 4d 6d] and won (54656) with a full house, Nines full of Fours
Seat 6: nahoj1 folded on the Turn
Seat 8: SCXpunk folded on the Turn
Seat 9: eightoften showed [Ah Kh Qh 8h] and lost with a flush, Ace high
Comments
Raising the flop with the 6-out flush draw1 would have been pressing too weak of a draw.
I think the closest decision was in Hand #1 on the turn. Checking behind the big field is a reasonable play.
Each river play was a disaster. You can't control the cards that come off the deck, but you can control your poker decisions.
You've got to fold top set on the river in the first hand. All the reasonable (and lots of unreasonable) straight draws are now complete. It would be a tricky decision holding a K-high straight, so a worse hand than this is a pretty clear fold.
In the second hand, your opponent is a fool to try to check-raise you (or even to simply to check to attempt to induce a bet, fearing you will fold if he bets). When a foolish play an opponent has made against you succeeds, that is generally evidence that you have made an error. Check and shwo down the flush now that the board has paired. The slim chance (since there are only 5 hearts among the entire 45 unseen cards) that your opponent will pay you off with a flush is overmatched by the chances that your opponent has not filled up.
On the other hand, is it even possible that your opponent holds something like 94xx, 93xx, or 92xx pre-flop, or has a flopped set? These are unusual holdings from someone with reasonable starting requirements. Well, it turns out that it is certainly possible. If you didn't notice before, you can see from your opponent's previous pre-flop play (KQ72ss) that he would play any four.
ScottyZ
1Not counting the 9h.