quick analysis

the_mainthe_main
in General Poker Chat
i think i know the answer... but humour me
5/10 shorthanded on PS

stats on villain over 60 hands are

VPIP 55%
pre flop raise 16%
and i had not seen him check raise all night
he;s also up about $40 since ive been there, if that means anything to you

PokerStars Game #2644665208:  Hold'em Limit ($5/$10) - 2005/09/23 - 19:51:14 (ET)
Table 'Brigitta' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: The Kronzs ($235.50 in chips)
Seat 2: fouracesSW ($87 in chips)
Seat 3: First Knight ($259 in chips)
Seat 4: the_main ($195 in chips)
Seat 5: kajelir ($174 in chips)
Seat 6: Fenlander ($48 in chips)
fouracesSW: posts small blind $2
First Knight: posts big blind $5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to the_main [ :ac  :10c]
the_main: raises $5 to $10
kajelir: folds
Fenlander: folds
The Kronzs: folds
fouracesSW: folds
First Knight: calls $5
*** FLOP *** [ :4c :3c :6h]
First Knight: checks
the_main: bets $5
First Knight: calls $5
*** TURN *** [:4c :3c :6h] [:ad]
First Knight: checks

Check behind??

Comments

  • SirWattsSirWatts
    Bet please
  • PokerKaiPokerKai
    how is it even close?

    BET!!!!
  • BBC ZBBC Z
    Check behind??

    If you hate money, yes.
  • the_mainthe_main
    ok ok ok, i know!

    i did bet, and he folded

    my only reason for posting this was that i figure i was so far ahead, i thought i could induce a blluff on the river

    he has fairly aggressive, and i thought maybe a check could earn me an extra BB

    for future reference, could you please post some reasoning behind your rationale... i think that wouuld lead to a far better disscussion.....
  • PokerKaiPokerKai
    the_main wrote:
    for future reference, could you please post some reasoning behind your rationale... i think that wouuld lead to a far better disscussion.....

    ok, here are my list of reasons for betting...

    1. you likely have the best hand
    2. your opponent is extremely loose, he will call with many worse hands
    3. your opponent is agressive, and likely to bluff raise allowing you make more bets
    4. you have a nut redraw on the odd chance you are behind
    5. you dont mind taking the pot down now with a bet
    6. ...did i mention,  you likely have the best hand?
    i figure i was so far ahead, i thought i could induce a blluff on the river

    save inducing bluffs for situations where you have a hand you cant value bet.
  • boxcardboxcard
    Here is how I see it.

    You check. River comes, he bets, you raise, he calls. You win 2BB.
    or
    You bet, he calls. River comes, he checks, you bet, he calls. You win 2BB.
    or
    You check. River comes, he checks, you bet, he bluff raises, you reraise, he folds. You win 2 BB.

    Of these 3 in LLHE, I choose 2nd scenario EVERY time. If he is going to suck out on you, MAKE HIM PAY.
  • the_mainthe_main
    good analysis guys - i appreciate the feedback

    seems like everyone agrees with my action - i guess im being results oriented b/c the guy folded

    so let me ask this, if the river is a club.... the :qc for instance - do you still bet here, or check it?
  • SirWattsSirWatts
    Sorry for no reasoning in my response. My only real reasoning is that people like to call a lot, so I bet when I have good hands a lot, checking just seems like fancy play syndrome. In a NL game I think checking here is a fairly standard option to induce bluffs and make sure you don't get raised off your nut flush draw though I still tend to bet it against most players.
  • MickeyHoldemMickeyHoldem
    the_main wrote:
    good analysis guys - i appreciate the feedback

    seems like everyone agrees with my action - i guess im being results oriented b/c the guy folded

    so let me ask this, if the river is a club.... the :qc for instance - do you still bet here, or check it?
    Do you mean the turn??.... anyway... I bet the turn here on almost anything, any club, any ace, or any non-face card... until he shows some game, I'm gonna assume you're ahead...
  • PokerKaiPokerKai
    MickeyHoldem wrote:
    the_main wrote:
    good analysis guys -  i appreciate the feedback

    seems like everyone agrees with my action -  i guess im being results oriented b/c the guy folded

    so let me ask this, if the river is a club.... the   :qc for instance   -   do you still bet here, or check it?
    Do you mean the turn??.... anyway... I bet the turn here on almost anything, any club, any ace, or any non-face card... until he shows some game, I'm gonna assume you're ahead...

    i think hes joking...
  • ScottyZScottyZ
    the_main wrote:
    good analysis guys - i appreciate the feedback

    seems like everyone agrees with my action - i guess im being results oriented b/c the guy folded

    so let me ask this, if the river is a club.... the :qc for instance - do you still bet here, or check it?


    Sure, I would check check here and show down the nuts in order to induce bluffs on future hands.

    ScottyZ
  • MickeyHoldemMickeyHoldem
    PokerKai wrote:
    i think hes joking...

    Hmmm... Damn!!.... In the future, I'll read the entire thread, before I open my mouth!!
    note to self... get sarcasm detector FIXED!!
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