When do you fold Pocket A's?
You Hold pocket A's. Assuming you made a decent raise before the flop and you still get a couple callers.
obviously there's countless amount of flops possible but how do you play your AA againt things like a
Straight draw
Flush Draw
a pair of face cards flop (possible Trips)
2 or 3 face cards flop(not including the A)
Second part of the question is what if a turn card is seen and makes the possible flush or straight?
When should I be folding, go all in, betting heavy or light?
obviously there's countless amount of flops possible but how do you play your AA againt things like a
Straight draw
Flush Draw
a pair of face cards flop (possible Trips)
2 or 3 face cards flop(not including the A)
Second part of the question is what if a turn card is seen and makes the possible flush or straight?
When should I be folding, go all in, betting heavy or light?
Comments
Straight draws can be really dangerous if you have a bunch of callers and chasers.
Flush draws rock if you have the A of that suit. However you need to pretty much hit the whole flop (all of one suit), or you could be in trouble.
possible trips, espeically on high cards is always possible on any table,
AA is so tricky, if you slow play them too much, you could end up in one of the above situations and have to pay a lot of money or fold them. If you put too much in the pot, you lose all the action. I typically like to put in at least a standard raise (or maybe even double the standard raise) to limit but not eliminate all opponents, then I am ready to let them go (usually on the turn) if things aren't working out. The "pros" might have better advice, but typically I only like getting all of my money in when I am a mortal lock (or have a friggin ton of outs) to win the hand.
FYP.
Yeah, that's always a genius play. Move all in with aces in all instances. Get that SB and BB in low limit games. Sometimes it is a great play but saying it is the best move in all occasions isn't smart.
i think he means getting in in, if you are able to get all your chips in with AA, it's obviously optimal, where WaterLooser seemed to be suggesting it's bad to get action?
To simplify this, just fold them preflop all the time and you won't get into any trouble!
It's tough to toss bullets into the muck. I'm sure everyone will agree that. But holding them because they are bullets can cost you plenty. Read the beat stories and you'll soon see. Everyone gets' their nuts cracked every now and then...and it hurts!!
That's basically what I was trying to say, maybe I didn't articulate that very well. I have had to either dip back into my pocket or retire early from a tournament too many times going all-in with AA pre-flop, so I am probably a little gun-shy with that hand. However, I would have to say 1/2 of those times I probably still would have got it all-in post-flop. Two nights ago I was playing in a SnG with 5 left and it was a triple all-in pre-flop. I had AA so I went along for the ride. The guy with 66 got a 6 on the turn to get trips and it was over for me. Other hands were AT and J9.
You would consider folding? Seriously? Why? You have no risk of busting, you have a giant pot equity edge and you're going to fold?
You make a larger raise x4 the BB and you get a caller. A face drops on the flop ... "Does he have trips?" ... "Will he pay for another look?"
So I say jam it all-in and take the blinds ... but then oh no ... POCKET FREAKING 10's or something calls and you get smoked by trips.
In conclusion ... I don't think AA is that different to other high pocket pairsm. I know I am not offering much in terms of usefull stategy, I am just sharing my thoughts.
I want the best possible starting hand to pay off, and if I have to fold it on the flop or turn to a better hand so be it. In the long run I know theres more money to be won. I'm not going to "baby" my A's because they've been cracked.
Now my question is how do you play the above flops and when would you give up your hand, how much are you willing to call if someones on that flush/straight draw, possibly could of made trips or 2 pair.
The asumption I am making is this is a NL tournament.
The way I look at playing is if you have a large chip lead it is better not to risk this chip lead on a coin flip because if there are already 3 all in callers that exactly what it is. Sure you have the best hand but you are better using your stack against one player and push them into making bad decisions.
It would be very hard for me to lay down, having said that I have never laid down AA preflop in a regular tournament. I have however done this in a satellite. 3-4 to the bubble I had average chips and the two chip leaders were going head to head.
I was of the opinion that when you're either a huge stack or a tiny stack, you should be taking all the +EV plays you can get (which this is by far). Even if it is only 50% to win (and I think in general this would be worst case if you're up against 3 other pockets, if they have hands like AK, AQ you might only have to dodge 2 outs from the other pocket and freak straights, flushes) , with 3 other players this is hugely +EV. Not to mention there are likely to be several side pots. Even IF you manage to lose the main pot, winning several side pots can minimize the loss, or actually get you more chips than the main pot was worth.
Agreed that in some instances folding aces is justified (classic example of MTT, 3 left, you have microstack, 2 chip leaders allin with equal stacks). With average chips though, I doubt I'd be laying that down, since I figure to be in good shape to win the whole thing if I triple through.
Of course you do. Â For the implied odds of hitting a big hand and busting you. Â If you're constantly making small raises with big hands and big raises with weak hands you're tipping your opponents off to the relative strength of your hand.
How do you play the flops? In a word, carefully. Â Playing AA in these spots is going to be heavily read dependent. Â Is the player betting into you a constant bluffer? Â Does he semi-bluff? Â Does betting into the pf raiser (as opposed to check-raising or smooth calling) indicate strength or weakness? Â Even if you are "technically" ahead, what cards can hurt you? Â (ie. a pair plus an OESD is roughly even money vs. the AA on the flop). Do you have any redraws? Â Is your opponent on tilt? Â Does he overvalue hands like TP? Etc., etc. etc....
I know my response is generally just posing a bunch of questions back at you, but there's no easy answer of how to play marginal hands (which AA is on those flops) vs any opponent. Â It will be highly situational. Â However the more you encounter those situations (and the better your read on your opponent) the better you will get at knowing when to lay it down, and when to play it aggressively.
Just my 2 cents...
I guess like everything else in this game, if you don't have a read on your opponents, you are shooting in the dark anyway.