Late MMT leak?
This exact situation has happened to me in that last 3 pokerroom $20K tourneys I've played...
The situation:
Sat's tourney is a $50K - Top 90 payout,
Mon 20K Top 70
Tues 20K Top 70.
In all cases, it was more important for me to get in the $ than take a huge chip lead intothe final 7 or 9 tables.
(Wanting to ensure a positive bankroll experience, the big $ will come when the time is right)
Sat's - I'm on the bubble with relatively low stack, manage to get in $
Mon's - Comfortably in $
Tue's - Bubble, same scenario as Sat, manage to get in.
Once in the $, it usually takes another 3 hrs to settle things and declare a winner, so I know there's
a lot of poker left...
My leak (I think) BB play.
Sat - J9 in BB, One early limp, SB limps. Flop is K 9 rag rainbow.
SB, checks, I bet about 1/2 my stack (which I assume will get a call from larger stack early),
early calls, SB folds. Turn rag. At this point I think early probably sitting on A or K. I push hoping
he's sitting on an A, knowing he'll call. If I didn't push, I expected him to put me all-in.
River is a rag and he shows a K.
Mon - similar situation, but with a little more chips and A9 in BB. Catch 9 on the flop, lose a large portion of stack
to early limper sitting on a K. Flop K 9 rag again, flush draw possible. I bet 3XBB and get called only by early pos.
Turn, rag, no flush yet. I check, early checks. River rag, but made possible flush. I bet pot. Early calls and shows his K.
Tues - almost identical to Sat, small stack, hit 2nd pair on flop, push and get called by 1 early limper who catches overcard.
So, knowing that there's still a good 2 1/2 hrs to go in this thing is my BB play killing me?
Comment please!
The situation:
Sat's tourney is a $50K - Top 90 payout,
Mon 20K Top 70
Tues 20K Top 70.
In all cases, it was more important for me to get in the $ than take a huge chip lead intothe final 7 or 9 tables.
(Wanting to ensure a positive bankroll experience, the big $ will come when the time is right)
Sat's - I'm on the bubble with relatively low stack, manage to get in $
Mon's - Comfortably in $
Tue's - Bubble, same scenario as Sat, manage to get in.
Once in the $, it usually takes another 3 hrs to settle things and declare a winner, so I know there's
a lot of poker left...
My leak (I think) BB play.
Sat - J9 in BB, One early limp, SB limps. Flop is K 9 rag rainbow.
SB, checks, I bet about 1/2 my stack (which I assume will get a call from larger stack early),
early calls, SB folds. Turn rag. At this point I think early probably sitting on A or K. I push hoping
he's sitting on an A, knowing he'll call. If I didn't push, I expected him to put me all-in.
River is a rag and he shows a K.
Mon - similar situation, but with a little more chips and A9 in BB. Catch 9 on the flop, lose a large portion of stack
to early limper sitting on a K. Flop K 9 rag again, flush draw possible. I bet 3XBB and get called only by early pos.
Turn, rag, no flush yet. I check, early checks. River rag, but made possible flush. I bet pot. Early calls and shows his K.
Tues - almost identical to Sat, small stack, hit 2nd pair on flop, push and get called by 1 early limper who catches overcard.
So, knowing that there's still a good 2 1/2 hrs to go in this thing is my BB play killing me?
Comment please!
Comments
Don't play a high variance (gasp.. there I am tossing around the V-word again) form of poker if 'ensuing a positive bankroll experience' is a goal for you.
You need to play some gusty poker to win the big money, limping into 2-3x shouldn't make you happy.
Wouldn't you be better off in a NL ring game?
Here's the solution to your post-flop problem:
"Don't go broke in an unraised pot"
a chance when short stacked and have hit any pair?
Yes - I agree, especially if I am up against a much larger stack. What about a similar sized, or smaller stack?
or just against SB?
Good point - it's a lot easier to drop second pair with a larger stack, especially when out of position.
Again, wondering what xBB = push and hope? I realize other factors are at work...but with only an orbit or two to go??
In two these, I was very short stacked, with only a few people to go...i.e. 68-70th, so I shut it down until I was in to ensure a profit, so that's where I mean positive bankroll....
I've heard this before (lol) - but it really hits home in this context.
I'll see if Mr. Plumber will get me through these types of hands late tonight...Â
Thanks again for the comments...and hey, BBC Z didn't tear a strip off of me, cool...Â
You actually didnt give us enough information about HOW shortsstacked you were.. posting the hand history along with your reads are better than abstractly talking about some hands.. anyway..
Find the other players at your table shutting down to hit the money and steal the hell out of them. It's a golden opportunity for easy chips that you desperately need.
Remember, You don't play tournaments to take 68th. You play them for top 3. Anything less is failure.
34th out of 485 left, very early...
This advice is great when you have a deep stack, especially in a typical cash game. When you are shortstacked towards the end of a tournament you must take any and all good oppurtunities (ie +EV) to increase your chips. It is fairly likely you have the best hand in the 3 hands he posted against the range of hands I would typically put the other players on. This particular piece of advice doesn't apply here at all imo.