Out of place or commited

FrogKing

This is the hand that got me out of the QPT (Quebec poker tour).
Back from first break, second hand.
Blinds are 400/800 with 100 ante
UTG: call
2=fold
Me=All-in with A/ko (T4300)
4=fold
5=fold
6=fold
SB=fold
BB=Call my all-in
UTG= Raise all-in (T19000)
BB=Call the 14700 more (he ad about T40000)before hand.

BB shows 6/6
UTG shows 10/10
I show my A/K

Flop is A/K/7
im happy
Turn is A/K/7/6
Im not happy
River is no good
BB=win pot and get me and UTG out of tourney.

Should the BB have called the UTG all-in.

whiterabbit

I'm only a novice, but the way I see it I think BB was wrong to call 2 all ins with 66. He must have known that someone easily had a big pair, or AK (as in your case). Plus why risk 1/2 your chips in that situation when you're not short stacked. Is that a correct analysis?

Flint Bones

I agree with whiterabbit. With two people before him going all-in, the sixes are no good. They won this time but the odds of them winning are pretty slim especially if someone else had a higher pocket pair.

It was a loose play that worked. Try it again and it will fail almost all the time.

Cecilia

Since BB was only calling your ALL in at first - and then UTG went all in over top of him - maybe the BB figured he was pot committed?
Or maybe he thought UTG was trying to push him out with a somewhat junk hand since originally UTG had only called the blind.

Hard to say. But yeah - semi bad call on his part.

Big E

I'm not so sure it's a bad call? UTG only called preflop which to me would indicate a possible weak hand, certainly not a big pocket pair....then BB only had to call 4300 with the 66 on the first all-in...not a bad call IMHO. Once UTG then comes over the top I think BB may have thought he was trying to steal his 4300 and hope for the head to head showdown with you. With the big stack BB had and the large pot I'd be tempted to let my 66 take a stab at it?

Zithal

This also comes down to the range of hands he's put his opponents on. His best case senario is that both players are playing Aces. Given the pre-flop betting, there's a wide range of hands he could put the short stack on (including weak Aces and low pockets), while the raise behind him feels more like a strong Ace or high pockets.

If his opponents both have Aces, he's almost 45% to win the hand, so he would definately have the odds to call.

Tough call on the BB's part, but I wouldn't call it completely bad, considering his tournament life isn't on the line and calling and losing doesn't cripple him. You really have to know what range of hands the BB put on his opponents before you can call it a bad call.

pkrfce9

I'd say his first call is a bad one since he's either going to be a slight favourite or a big dog to you PLUS there's still someone behind him yet to act. And he does get nailed by this person!

The second call is no better than the first. In his shoes, I'd have to wonder what the second all-in is holding. He knows the BB has already called a large raise so BB would have to have a decent hand. To re-raise all-in to me indicates a much stronger hand than 66. To put up a big chunk of his stack to call that seems pretty reckless to me. Perhaps there is some table history indicating the second all-in was a bit of a maniac?

I'd rate this as a questionable play and certainly very lucky. You got your money in at a very good time and just got unlucky.

Unknown

WOW....I would have to say bad play all around the table....I am not sure as to what the table images were like etc however UTG limped in as he was more than likely wanting to see a cheap flop as he may have been scared of AK/AQ etc calling and pushing ( however with him re-rasing all in it makes me wonder what he was thinking?Was he trying to trap with PP!0?) with you going all in for 4300 and the BB caling ( I am ot sure what the average stack was but BB seems to be in good shape,I would have rather folded my 2 outer) maybe UTG thought he could get HU with another push of the chips.However at that time now BB is almost getting 1:1 on his money......althought I dont think it would justify a call in the first place he surely isnt going to back down now. I would have to say that it is a classic case of another DONK STRIKE.
In all levels of tournaments now ( I cash once in a while but not a big tourney player to begin with) I am seeing more and more "TV" moves..lol,anyways all I can say is that try not to get your money all-in if you can help it unless you have the nuts....you are letting the game be decided by dumb luck which in this case bit you in the ass ( however I think many people WAYYYYY overplay their AK,there should be a book written about that hand alone)

Either way BB was a donkey for calling and you got unlucky,the plan was right and rightfully you should have been HU with UTG which of course you would be writing and telling us how you just bought your new Benz!

Good luck in the next one!

Psi

This hand was perfectly played by the UTG player IF he had you read that you had AK
He was trying to isolate you for a coin flip which he was getting 3:1 odds on, that's pretty good imo.

The BB is an idiot, he was badly beaten and just got lucky.

apryllshowers

FrogKing wrote:

This is the hand that got me out of the QPT (Quebec poker tour).
Back from first break, second hand.
Blinds are 400/800 with 100 ante
UTG: call
2=fold
Me=All-in with A/ko (T4300)
4=fold
5=fold
6=fold
SB=fold
BB=Call my all-in
UTG= Raise all-in (T19000)
BB=Call the 14700 more (he ad about T40000)before hand.

BB shows 6/6
UTG shows 10/10
I show my A/K

Flop is A/K/7
im happy
Turn is A/K/7/6
Im not happy
River is no good
BB=win pot and  get me and UTG out of tourney.

Should the BB have called the UTG all-in.

The BB's initial call of your allin is not terrible (he should have raised allin to isolate if he intended to call an allin by UTG), and his overcall allin of the UTG limp reraiser is about as bad as it gets. His best case scenario is that you both have AK/AQ type hands. I can;t wait to be in a hand for my tournament life HOPING to be against 3-4 overcards. LOL, what a :fish:

I hate UTG's limp, but he does correctly reraise allin to try and isolate you.

This is yet another beat inflicted by someone (the BB) who has probably watched a lot of televised poker, yet has no concept of pot odds, table dynamics, etc.

Any donkey can win a poker tournament. The 6000 player field for the WSOP will spawn more bad beat stories than ever before.