Star Wars III (may contain spoilers)

GrahamGraham
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What did you guys think? Definately the best of the first 3 I raised my eyebrow a few times and was left with some questions, but overall a good flick.

Stuff that bugged me:

-Most of the droid dialouge.

-Wookies doing the tarzan battle cry when swinging.

-"She's lost the will to live" explanation of Pademe's death...just tell us she isn't going to pull through...don't tell us she's dying of a broken heart.

-Timeline. Look at just how much Obi Wan has to age in the 17-18 years between EP III and New Hope..same goes for Uncle Owen and Peru...the woman that picked Luke out of Obi's arms was like 25, then in New Hope she's in her late 50's.

Comments

  • RAM_EhRAM_Eh
    Over all, I like the movie.

    The biggest timeline blunder was at the end.

    Timeline- Emperor and Vader are looking out the bridge of a star destroyer at the building of the first death star. Luke and Lea were just born. Put Luke at 19 at episode 3 and it takes that long to build it? I noticed the aging of Obiwan too. He aged at least 30 years in the same time line.
  • Flint BonesFlint Bones
    I explain the aging problem with the two suns of Tatooine. Major skin damage there.

    I guess it takes a long time to build a Death Star. When I was young and tried to build one out of Lego, it took me forever. And I didn't have to find a crazy one-eyed monster for my trash compactor.

    The only thing that bothered my was Darth Vader's last line, "Noooooooooooooo!!". I actually cringed. It was bad. I loved the movie, I just think they could have lost the yelling.
  • GrahamGraham
    something bothered me about the deathstar too..the fact that even with the progress we were shown @ the end of EP3, it took another 18-19 years to get to the point that it is in IV..
  • WaterLooserWaterLooser
    I agree with the timeline issues. I also think that a lot of the scenes at the end like:
    "Deliver these droids to Captain Antilles. Oh, and wipe this one's memory". (C3P0, no wonder he doesn't remember any of that in IV)
    Could have just been better to leave 3P0 out of the prequils and then wouldn't have to have a stupid scene like the above to close out the plot holes.

    I also think a lot of the wookies came out of Bob Marley music videos with the hair all braded and beaded. Not what I would have pictured on the wookie planet!
  • WolffhoundWolffhound
    Well, I'm not a expert on the subject but, have gotten dragged back into Star Wars by my 9 year old.
    From his perspective...it was awesome and his favorite.

    Darth might as well have been screaming "Stella" at the end...

    With respect to the aging issues...based on consumption of Lucky this weekend, I aged at least 5 years in 3 days...
    so...maybe Obi Wan drank a lot?
  • RAM_EhRAM_Eh
    By the way, for those of you that have not seen it. Go see it. It is the best of the last three.
  • JohnnieHJohnnieH
    Maybe Vader had problems with the contractors, (see CLERKS by Kevin Smith!!) which causes delays in constructing the Death Star.

    I think my favorite part is when Anikin has Count Dooku mercied and Palpitine says "Finish him." The look on Dookus' face is priceless!!! He's just like, "Finish me? But I"M your apprentice!! Oh crap, I'm dead."

    I only wish that someone would have finished off Jar Jar Binks for me. All those lightsabers flashing around the screen and not one hits HM!! Damnit!!!

    Also if Anikin/Vader would have REALLY killed Padme, the story would have been more believable. I mean, he slaughtered the younglings, why not take that extra step?


    I've seen EP3 twice now, and I'm still happy with it.

    JohnnieH
  • FrogKingFrogKing
    Sure, Episode 3 is the best of the first 3.

    Exept for.

    Younglings, What the hell.... i mean there kids not younglings. Sounded like they came out of Yoda eggs or something.

    How could Anakin not have known that Palpatine was evil, (PALPATINE) - KILL HIM... LEAVE YOUR BEST FRIEND TO DIE....RAAAAAAAAAA.....ok he doesnt say RAAAAAAAAAAA but he might as well.

    And the worst, I have the high ground Anakin, dont try anything or i will cut every human limb you still have. How can that be the end of the duel. I HAVE THE HIGH GROUND, I WIN.

    On the other side the four armed lighsaber fight was really good.
  • Flint BonesFlint Bones
    I think a lot of people don't like the movie for the sake of not liking it. I was very happy with it (NOOOOOOOOOOOO, being the only exception).

    "Younglings". Surprisinly it is a term to refer to children that is used. It's more British, though. My grandmother, who was born in England, used it. It bothered me then, too. It also helped me explain to my son that Anakin killed a lot of small plants. He didn't need to know about the kids.
  • RAM_EhRAM_Eh
    Yonglings is a term they have used in the many Starwars books published inbetween EP6 and EP1
  • FrogKingFrogKing
    Oki i did not know that, but still....Younglings. I think they used the same term in a dungeon and dragon handbook to describe young dragon.

    And no im not a geek, and only know that because.......

    Damm i am a geek

    About the movie, when people ask me about it i usually say that im gonna have to see it again to have a definite opinion.

    Tough it was pretty funny to picture R2 as a Swiss army knife.
  • ZithalZithal
    Given all the plot holes and wretched dialog, I mostly enjoyed myself, except for one thing. I didn't AT ALL buy Anikin's transfer to the Dark Side. What pissed me most was that the movie had set up the perfect way for him to turn dark (going so far as to foreshadow it TWICE) but completely dropped the ball.

    In the move (spoiler) he succumbs because the only man who knows about the power to ressurect is about to be killed.

    I have no issue with Padme being the reason he turns, but what about this senario....

    Early on in the movie, Anikin and Padme talk about how their love is forebidden and that the Jedi's can never find about about them.

    Later on, Yoda and Anikin are talking with Yoda basically mirroring the message presenting in the above scene.

    So, the movie seperates from here and the Jedi council discovers the romance (and pregnancy), and seperates Anakin and Padme with the Jedi keeping watch over Padme (after the children might be Jedi's themselves)

    In the Jedi's care, Padme goes in to labour, Anikin is unable to get to her in time and dies. Suddenly, Anakin now has about a billion reasons to have a serious hate on for the Jedi and not much else about the story needs to change.
  • harthgoshharthgosh
    Rememeber the dialogue when padme is saying''ÿour breaking my heart" man thats some lousy acting.
    I agree with sloth about the tarzan sounds and the droids all using words stolen from cheezy 80's and early 90's action flicks.

    But come on no, one has said anything yet about Yoda kickin some major butt! Go little green guy go!

    Also the guy that was the boss of the resort city taken over by the general greivous was a sick make up job.. with those teeth! that was awesome.

    Timeline is very screwed, I was thinking that the whole time, and also why oh why didnt Obe Wan go give anakin a little heads off, I mean anakin did just try and kill him. I say finish the job.
  • pkrfce9pkrfce9
    harthgosh wrote:
    why oh why didnt Obe Wan go give anakin a little heads off, I mean anakin did just try and kill him.  I say finish the job.
    I had a hard time explaining that one to my son. After all, these guys were master/student/friends. He just left him there to burn. Seems awfully un-Jedi. But I guess if he'd finished him off, it would have really killed the storyline...

    Good flick, though.
  • YorkpokerYorkpoker
    I saw it with my better half and another couple and we couldn't get past the first exchange b/w Natalie and Hayden.

    I turned to the guy in the other couple and we started with the,

    "I wub you"
    "no, I wub YOU"
    "you're Boo-ful"
    "no, You're Boo-ful"
    "I am only boo-ful cause I WUB you"

    I was lost after that exchange. On the other hand, the rows immediately in front of and behind us cracked up at that point.
  • Paul3221Paul3221
    Definitely the best of the new three, and I may even put it ahead of #6, just because I can't stand Ewoks.  I think Zithal is on to something with the different reason for the transformation.  Possibly, he just gets kicked out of the Jedi, and the Emperor offers to train him secretly or something.  The reason for her death was totally lame too!!  Overall, a good movie though, and well worth seeing.
  • Big EBig E
    Didn't really care for it very much, or more accurately I guess I was not really impressed. I remember being awed when I was a kid and 4,5, and 6 came out, the new three just don't live up to those memories. I found most of the dialogue terrible, I didn't really find it believable that he would have turned from all his training so quickly and easily but all in all I guess the transition to Vader was not bad. Lots of action but not really well choreographed IMHO. I thought the pod race and the fight with Darth Maul in episode 1 better. Thought it was better then episode 2 tho? I must say the guy that played Anakin did do a much better job and Palpatine/Darth Sidious was very well done. Padme in my opinion, although pretty hot was horrible but not nearly as annoying as Princess Leia. It is what it is tho, a good sappy adventure, I think as a whole the 6 episodes are a lot of fun.
  • roketinpoketroketinpoket
    I thought this was the best of the first three. The worst part of it was Hayden's acting which is really bad. Zithal's explanation of Ani going bad would have been much better.

    Has anyone thought about how new generations are going to watch these before watching 4,5,and 6? They're going to know Vader is Luke's father and that's a real spoiler. They'll also know about Obi's little white lie regarding Vader killing Luke's father. Doesn't that just kill the suspense?!
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