Pre-flop raise costs me $4500 last night
1/3 NL
last night at the casino, I get J :c: 8 :c: in the BB..... EP limps...MP raises to 6 (I would have called this).... then the button makes it 20 to go.... I fold my BB... EP & MP call.... Flop: 7 :c: 9 :c: T :c:...... double damn!!
EP bets something like 20... MP folds.... button calls..... Turn: blank
EP bets.... button calls........ River: 9 :d:
EP bets big .... button calls.... EP shows 9
: 9 :h: for quads and takes down nice pot.... then I hit him with the bad news....he turns to look at the board....
BAD BEAT JACKPOT: ~$17800
I actually got the dealer to go into the muck to find my hand.... he pulls out the J 8....... DAMN BUTTON
last night at the casino, I get J :c: 8 :c: in the BB..... EP limps...MP raises to 6 (I would have called this).... then the button makes it 20 to go.... I fold my BB... EP & MP call.... Flop: 7 :c: 9 :c: T :c:...... double damn!!
EP bets something like 20... MP folds.... button calls..... Turn: blank
EP bets.... button calls........ River: 9 :d:
EP bets big .... button calls.... EP shows 9
: 9 :h: for quads and takes down nice pot.... then I hit him with the bad news....he turns to look at the board....BAD BEAT JACKPOT: ~$17800
I actually got the dealer to go into the muck to find my hand.... he pulls out the J 8....... DAMN BUTTON
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Mohawk Casino.... NY State across from Cornwall
Do you think the hand would have been played to the end for it to qualify for the "Bad Beat Jackpot"? Or would you have smooth called everything? Maybe you would have overbet and made him fold. Think like that and maybe, just maybe, you'll feel better.
Nope.
Lose sleep over it.
That is really bad luck.
Wow - you cost yourself almost $5K! How can you let it go? How - you play for years and wait out THOUSANDS of hands for something like this to come up. When it finally does, you mucked your hand!
Wow.
Has to be 'Is there a bad beat jackpot?' Brutal no bad beat bad beat story.
For the record.... I check this flop from the BB.... EP's still gonna bet $20 with his set of 9s... I'm gonna check/call him all the way to the river, where I check/raise him all-in... EPs gonna know the only way he's beat is when he gets payed off by the jackpot.... easy call for him.
Well then it sucks. It happens to us all (maybe not this magnitude). I folded J4o (and why wouldn't I?) and A 4 4 hit the flop with another 4 on the turn. Someone else had pocket aces and went all in for a couple hundred. It hurt. But I got over it. So will you.
It is a tough one.
My major concern with this is that the opponent might call, but then muck his hand if he didn't know about (or just forgot about) the fact that there is a bad beat jackpot. Seeing his quads get worked over by a straight flush might make someone so angry/sad/stupified/whatever that they might toss their cards into the muck either seeing red or simply as a reflex.
Of course, the chances of blowing a bad beat jackpot this way are very small. However, it's one of those "low probability-big result" phenomena which are typically hard to understand.
Plus, you're also going to need to consider the importance of collecting value bets from non-bad beat jackpot hands, like full houses or the (non-) nut flush.
I'd probably still get it all-in on the river. I'd likely just push it all-in myself (or at least make some kind of bet--- depends on the stack sizes I guess) in first position.
ScottyZ
Before pushing all in I would ask the dealer what the bad beat jack pot was at.
A risky idea. There is a "no discussing the bad beat jackpot during a hand" rule which might get triggered by a comment like this.
ScottyZ
It was really foggy, so I couldn't drive very fast. :cool:
ScottyZ