Would you lay this down????
OK I was playing in a home game.
$20 max buyin NL
$.25/$.50 blinds
We play for big money!! hehehe
Anyway, I was on bb and had 3 6. A couple of limpers and the button raises $1. I called because the raiser often raises with garbage, plus he had position.
Flop comes down 3 3 6. I had to look twice, then i gave one of those looks (a very brief look) when you have AK and you see that flop.
I check, gets checked around to the button and he bets another $1.50. I call a couple more callers.Â
A comes on the turn. I check again, button raises to $5 (I put him on A and high kicker)Â
River comes another rag. I check, he bets $5, and I reraise $15. He then re raises me all in (Another $10). I lay down.
Any guesses what he had? Would you have layed it down?
I did find out what he had.
$20 max buyin NL
$.25/$.50 blinds
We play for big money!! hehehe
Anyway, I was on bb and had 3 6. A couple of limpers and the button raises $1. I called because the raiser often raises with garbage, plus he had position.
Flop comes down 3 3 6. I had to look twice, then i gave one of those looks (a very brief look) when you have AK and you see that flop.
I check, gets checked around to the button and he bets another $1.50. I call a couple more callers.Â
A comes on the turn. I check again, button raises to $5 (I put him on A and high kicker)Â
River comes another rag. I check, he bets $5, and I reraise $15. He then re raises me all in (Another $10). I lay down.
Any guesses what he had? Would you have layed it down?
I did find out what he had.
Comments
Higher full house - he needs to have 66 or A6 or AA in his hand.
Four of a kind - not on the threes because you have one. Impossible on the 6's.
Straight flush - not likely, but not sure since you didn't include suits.
For these limits, and with the other full house options, I would call.
You have played the hand "weak" by waiting until the river to c/r. If I am in his seat your c/r looks suspcious to me. So, I think you are beat with your 3-6, but I think you have to call because your play has opened the hand to a fairly wide range of hands on his part.
Having said that, at these limits and stacks sizes you probably have to call no matter what happens. You've only got 20 big blinds in your stack (I know it's cash game). It's very hard to imagine a betting sequence that will be adequate to let you fold unless you know THIS player very, very well.
I have a feeling you're going to tell us that he did indeed have you beat and if that is case, then I bust out. I still wouldn't fold here.
You also have to look at how he bet the flop. His $1.50 isn't that much. He is not showing any power. A re-raise on your part would have been prudent.
Lastly you had enough money in the pot to call.
I am waiting to hear he had the A3. Either way I would have called. It would be a tough loss.
after the river, when my buddy bet me all in.
I looked at him and asked him if he had a good hand... he said second best.
So I asked him if he had pocket rockets and he said yes. I know the pot odds were there and I was pot committed.
Anyway, I layed down and he flipped up rockets.
I dont know how I could have gotten him off that hand even after the flop unless I bet all in and flashed my boat??
sorry blinds were $0.25/$0.50
This brings up an important point. While you must always be thinking ahead both within betting rounds and to the future rounds, it is doubly important to understand the consequenses of failing to close the action during any betting round (particularly the river) when you have the opportunity to do so. Re-opening the action to your opponent(s) when the reward for doing so is inadequate (or equivalently, failing to charge your opponent a large enough price for the opportunity to act again) is a common and subtle error.
You give up a lot of EV here by betting some partial amount of your stack (which is shallow) with the intention of folding, since your hand is so likely to be the winner at a show down. An over-simplified way to think of it is that you're giving up (since you intend to fold to further action) an excellent chance to win a $25 pot in order to try to grab an extra $10 (or $15) value bet.
While check-raising with the intention of folding to a re-raise on the river is probably a poor plan of attack, if you actually check-raised with no thought at all to what your intention was, then that would be a major error.
The bottom line is that by raising by $10 (or $15) more on the river, you must be convinced that your hand is good enough to call the last $10, being such a small amount in excess. If you think ahead and see yourself folding if your opponent moves in for the extra $10, then why not just call the river and show down the possible winner?
Betting (or check-raising) as a bluff can't really be a consideration, because it would have to be a world class fold for your opponent to fold better than your 3's full of 6's. The only hand you could possibly fold for the last $10 on the river with the betting pattern you executed here is a stone cold bluff.
Your opponent has AA.
ScottyZ
Dang it. If only I had finished my post 2 minutes quicker...
ScottyZ
I think I would have bet big on the flop.
Having flopped a boat, you don't want AA to fold in this situation...so how to get him to fold is irrelevant.