Bristol St Poker - 2023 Event #7 "The HORSE Championship" - $40 - Friday, Aug 25th
It's been a HOT MINUTE, but HORSE is returning to Bristol St Poker at the Compound!! Get ready to crown a champion of this 5-game tournament!!
Late players: If you know you're going to be late, let me know and a seat and chips will be set out for you and you will post blinds and fold until you arrive.
If you do not let me know that you'll be late, we'll keep your chips out for a level and then remove then. You can buy in when you show up, but will pay a penalty of 4 rounds of blinds/ante per level (or partial level you miss)
The tournament will last approximately 5-6 hours. Seating is limited to 24 players. (8 max tables) Please reserve your seat in advance!! The final table will form with 9 players left.
Cash game chips will be available as tables open up. (Suggested .25/.50 $60 max)
As always, tournaments at The Compound are rake-free!!
Bristol Street Poker at the Compound presents...
THE HORSE CHAMPIONSHIP - 2023 - EVENT #7
H.O.R.S.E Freezeout
Friday, Aug 25th - 7:00pm
(doors open at 6:45pm)
$40 Buy-in - 20 Min levels - 40,000 Chips - 24 player max.
$$$ Pay-outs $$$
1st place - 40%
2nd place - 27%
3rd place - 19%
4th place - 14%
(Top 3 with 2 tables, Top 5 with 4)
THE HORSE CHAMPIONSHIP - 2023 - EVENT #7 H.O.R.S.E Freezeout
Friday, Aug 25th - 7:00pm
(doors open at 6:45pm)
$40 Buy-in - 20 Min levels - 40,000 Chips - 24 player max.
$$$ Pay-outs $$$
1st place - 40%
2nd place - 27%
3rd place - 19%
4th place - 14%
(Top 3 with 2 tables, Top 5 with 4)
Late players: If you know you're going to be late, let me know and a seat and chips will be set out for you and you will post blinds and fold until you arrive.
If you do not let me know that you'll be late, we'll keep your chips out for a level and then remove then. You can buy in when you show up, but will pay a penalty of 4 rounds of blinds/ante per level (or partial level you miss)
The tournament will last approximately 5-6 hours. Seating is limited to 24 players. (8 max tables) Please reserve your seat in advance!! The final table will form with 9 players left.
Cash game chips will be available as tables open up. (Suggested .25/.50 $60 max)
As always, tournaments at The Compound are rake-free!!
Comments
1. Zithal
2. Moose
3. King Mob
4. DrTyore
5. Dumbfishy
6. Vijay
7. Captain Optimism
8. Thiyagu
9. BigMac
10. DataMn
11. Beach2002
12. beanie42
13. Kanga
14. JohnnieH
15. thisOtThat
16.
Blinds Schedule (I'll have print outs of this at each table)
Flop (Small Blind, Small Bet, Big Bet)
Stud (Ante, Bring-in, Small Bet, Big Bet)
1. Flop 100/200/400
Stud 300(Button)/100/200/400
2. Flop 100/300/600
Stud 500(Button)/100/300/600
3. Flop 200/400/800
Stud 100/200/400/800
4. Flop 300/500/1000
Stud 100/200/500/1000
5. Flop 300/600/1200
Stud 100/200/600/1200
6. Flop 400/800/1600
Stud 200/200/800/1600
7. Flop 500/1000/2000
Stud 200/300/1000/2000
8. Flop 600/1200/2400
Stud 300/400/1200/2400
9. Flop 800/1500/3000
Stud 300/500/1500/3000
(REMOVE 100 Chips)
10. Flop 1000/2000/4000
Stud 500/500/2000/4000
11. Flop 1500/3000/6000
Stud 1000/1000/3000/6000
12. Flop 2000/4000/8000
Stud 1000/1000/4000/8000
13. Flop 3k/5k/10k
Stud 1k/2k/5k/10k
14. Flop 3k/6k/12k
Stud 1.5k/2k/6k/12k
(REMOVE 500 Chips)
15. Flop 4k/8k/16k
Stud 2k/2k/8k/16k
16. Flop 5k/10k/20k
Stud 2k/3k/10k/20k
17. Flop 8k/15k/30k
Stud 3k/5k/15k/30k
(REMOVE 1000 Chips)
18. Flop 10k/20k/40k
Stud 5k/5k/20k/40k
19. Flop 15k/30k/60k
Stud 10k/10k/30k/60k
20. Flop 25k/50k/100k
Stud 10k/20k/50k/100k
Mark
DrTyore... there is no die roll to save you in this tournament!
I'll also have cards to indicate the active game, and will switch as the button passes it.
Depending on number of players, I'm also strongly considering making this a 6-max event, to help with action and speed up hands/level.
This is a bit of an experiment, my I'm really looking forward to trying something a little different.
Just to BET/CALL, (nevermind even raising) every street in a SINGLE hand in the 1st level is 500/500/1000/1000 which is 12% of your starting stack. Might be all in in the first orbit!
One hand capped is 12k or almost half your stack.
Needs some major adjusting.
WSOP HORSE $1500 $25k starting
Doesn't get to 500-1000 until level 4.
https://www.wsop.com/pdfs/structuresheets/structure_5219_21712.pdf
I am not an expert in blind structure but I've found that since removing the 25 greens the structure is much faster than previous.
I would agree that the structure for the horse tournament seems fast. I'd hope to get a chance to play all five variations before being all in.
Would keeping the original blind schedule and upping the starting stack to 50k be a good compromise between the two?
Happy to run it with the additional blinds and use that as a learning opportunity. I recall the first time we ran HORSE (a long while ago), the feedback I got was that the first few levels felt very inconsequential, so I wanted to address that.
Edit: Dropping level 1A from the above schedule, I think would also be a good compromise.
@beach2002 I've heard the same, but the weird part is that the current schedule actually has more play than when we had 25 greens. This is a snapshot of the schedule comparing 25min to 100min. Freezeouts I run with 25k (but even 20k has more play), while rebuys have 10k (to push action). The numbers you see are Level / BB / Total BB in play for each comparison. (Note that in the old schedule, BB Antes didn't kick in until level 5, so that may be part of the perception? Maybe I should track the "M" of each level? )
Let's just say at that level, 4 players left, 100k each. The players have only 20 big blinds each and only 10 big bets.
One hand would cost 30k to bet/call every street or a little over 3 hands worth in chips. Each hand would produce a swing of roughly 60% between two players (+30/-30)
Even if you raise and everyone folds for 3 hands in a row, you increase your stack 3*8k or 24%.
If just the blinds battle and the small blind raises just the preflop pot is 20k or 1/5 of your stack. If you have any of the flop at all, can you even fold at that point? I don't see it lasting much past that level.
After 6 hours, level 16 is 15/30/60. One hand called to river is (30+30+60+60)*2 players=360k, almost all the chips in play. Impossible it gets to that level and lasts that long.
4-5 hrs max.
Holdem
Omaha hi/lo
Razz
Stud
Stud eight or better (aka hi lo)
Correct?
Mark
Correct on the order!
Aside from that, I had a blast playing limit games live! It's a tournament that won't happen often, but deserves a spot in the rotation. I think next season we'll try a mixed Big Bet tournament!
Results
**Final 2 split the prize pool, and final 4 left $10 each for 5th
1st - DrTyore ($205) - 40 points
2nd - Thiyagu ($205) - 28 points
3rd - Zithal ($110) - 23 points
4th - Kanga ($80) - 20 points
5th - Beanie42 ($40) - 18 points
6th - Bigmac (BUBBLE) - 16 points
7th - DataMn - 15 points
8th - King Mob
9th - Beach2002
10th - Moose
11th - EdTheTed
12th - JohnnieH
13th - Captain Optimism
14th - Vijay
15th - Dumbfishy
16th - ThisOrThat
2023 Player of Year (Top 15)
While there was a bit of shuffling, the Top 10 remained the Top 10 as we head into the last few months of the season!