Poker tournament in Hamilton Feb 5th.

TJS96

Trying to expand our no limit tournament that we have once a month on West Hamilton Mountain. Our group just likes to have fun but we do play to the best of our abilities. Either $50 or $100 buy in (Majority rules) with 20 dollar rebuys. If anyone is interested please let me know and I will provide more information. 100% of the money collected will be returned in prize money. Game will start at 1:30 PM.

Vaibhav

In - please share details

TJS96

Sent you a message with details.

compuease

I think if you want to get more participation from members here it might be best if you post some details. Ie blind levels, starting stacks, # of players, etc., like you see others post.

MrCaspan

Yes please dont keep details like this hidden it makes it look like a secret game with rake Look at some other posts and follow their format

TJS96

Sorry not trying to be secretive in any way.

TJS96

The blinds start out at 1 /2 and remain there for the full rebuy period. Players get 40 chips to start. The rebuy period is typically 2 hours. The tournament buy in is $50.00 and the rebuys are $20.00. There is an add-on at the end of the rebuy period for $40.00 for 80 chips. Blinds then progress to 2/4, 3/6, 4/8, 5/10, 8/16, 10/20, 20/40, 40/80, 50/100 (to get rid of small chip denominations), 100/200, 200/400, and double each time till done. We play 12-minute blinds. Usually, we are done at around the 5-hour mark. We try to spread out the prizes so with 10 we will pay 50,30,20 %, 11-15 we will have four prizes, and 16 to 20 we will have 5 prizes. In the past two tables has been our limit though we have room and chairs for an extra table if we get the demand. Everything is established and documented (printed and posted on the wall) before we start as we want to be transparent and fair to all. We use card shufflers at all tables. All money is returned to the players, there is no rake. If you wish to play for a higher amount this is not the tournament for you, we are just hear for fun and will not raise the stakes. You can rebuy if you have 10 chips or leas and everyone is eligible for the add-on. Because the starting stack is 40 chips and the rebuy amount is discounted, we tend to get a substantial number of rebuys. First prize last tournament was $900.00. We run our tournaments as a democracy in that while the tournament is at my house everyone has an equal say in how it is run and we are open to discussing modifications if the majority agree (with the exception of raising the stacks). Our level of players would be some just starting out up till a few that play at the WSOP each year (but never seem to pay for the trip, lol). We just try to respect each other and have fun while doing it. If you are someone who is openly critical of others play all the time you may not get invited back (though we have never had to go to that extreme). In the past we played at night so we never stuck around for a cash game but if there is demand (as we are switching to the afternoon) we can look into it (but again the stakes should be equivalent to what we pay to play the tournament). If you have any other questions please let me know.

Card Dead

Very unique structure. Plays like a short stacked cash game for the first 2 hrs and then the tournament starts after the cutoff.

I could see DJ setting the record for rebuys in this format. 🤪

compuease

Card Dead wrote: »

Very unique structure. Plays like a short stacked cash game for the first 2 hrs and then the tournament starts after the cutoff.

Well that sure encourages lots of rebuys. No thanks, not for me, like to limit what i am putting into a game for time played. To each his/her own.

Card Dead wrote: »

I could see DJ setting the record for rebuys in this format. 🤪

This for sure!

TJS96

Its different but we have tried in with 3 different groups now and they have all accepted it as their choice going forward. When I was told this is what they were going to do I must attempt I was sceptical but it does give the less experienced a chance to get some play for their money with them having to deal with the pressures of increasing blinds.

TJS96

With the 20.00 rebuys there seems to be some tournaments with a run and others where there are few rebuys with for the most part the same group. It seems to average out to around 2.2 rebuys a person. I have seen someone who played almost everything (badly) rebuy a total of 6 times but that is highest. Could DJ take that down.

Last tournament with 12 players first place was $800.00 (which is exactly 2 rebuys per person if everybody did the add on). I am not sure if there were any more but I know that two people declined the rebuy.

thisORthat

>in that while the tournament is at my house everyone has an equal say in how it is run and we are open to discussing modifications...

Wow so no using 'peer pressure' as host to influence format change mid-game so that the introverted noobs (that was chip leader) just go along with it in the late stages of tourny as to not make a fuss. Kudos for running an 'honest(fair) game' /s [/r/Jokes] {trolling}

moose

If you want interest from people here, your structure needs some adjustment. 40 chips with 1/2 blinds, is only 20 big blinds. As you have mentioned, this leads to a total shovefest.

Typical for a tournament would be in the 100 to 200 big blinds range for a starting stack.

You are not getting much play for your $50 with 20 bigs and will likely be shoving in the first orbit. Every orbit you lose 7.5% of your stack to the blinds and that is just the 1st 12 min. By the 2nd level you are already down to 10 bigs.
Most people here are looking for something with a little more skill involved. This is almost pure bingo.

TJS96

Well I understand what you are saying but remember the blinds do not go up during the re buy period (they stay 1-2). We feel we are giving the beginners some play for their buy in (and they seem to enjoy it). The only way you would be down 10 bigs in the second level (10 *2) is if you played 7 orbits (or 70 hands) in the first 12 minutes. Once the blinds kick in it does not take long for the more experienced players to take over.

So every orbit your are losing 3 chips from your stack of forty. You therefore have 13 orbits (or 130 hands) before your blinded out. We generally allow a rebuy period of 2.0 hours. So if an average hand took three minutes (not saying it does but if it did) you would still have chips left even if you did not play a hand.

In my regular weekly game (at another location) I am one of the most experienced players. We get anywhere from 12 to 15 players with three prizes and I have cashed 9 out of 13 times. So if we use the low of 12 I should have cashed roughly 4 times and I cashed 9 (and I am nothing special when compared to the general poker community).

I'm not saying it works for everyone but I have participated using this format with 4 different groups and I have never heard anyone complain after it is completed.

trigs

Are $20 rebuys also for 40 chips and only add-on is for 80 chips?

MrCaspan

I like the experiment with the home games format and changing it up. This is what poker is all about IMO. It's why we have so many other formats of poker! Everyone is different and not every game is for everyone. Take what everyone is saying with a grain of salt. If you can fill a few tables but 10 people on here hate it then does not really matter. If you cannot fill a table ever and everyone on here hates it then maybe their opinions hold a bit of weight. I personally find $50 buy-ins above my bankroll unless they are long format but to others it's a drop in the bucket. If I do play a $50 buy-in I want it to be a game where it is skill based and no rushing, AKA I want an 8 hour tournament with long blinds like WSOP where players get to decide what spots to take and not the clock, everything else is just bingo as they say to me, skill is still there but variance is way too high IMO, but to each their own! I still like to go out and play for the fun of it and yapping with other players for a $20 bingo game this makes sense.

Good luck with the game, always glad to see new hosts and new formats!

moose

TJS96 wrote: »

Well I understand what you are saying but remember the blinds do not go up during the re buy period (they stay 1-2). We feel we are giving the beginners some play for their buy in (and they seem to enjoy it). The only way you would be down 10 bigs in the second level (10 *2) is if you played 7 orbits (or 70 hands) in the first 12 minutes. Once the blinds kick in it does not take long for the more experienced players to take over.

So every orbit your are losing 3 chips from your stack of forty. You therefore have 13 orbits (or 130 hands) before your blinded out. We generally allow a rebuy period of 2.0 hours. So if an average hand took three minutes (not saying it does but if it did) you would still have chips left even if you did not play a hand.

In my regular weekly game (at another location) I am one of the most experienced players. We get anywhere from 12 to 15 players with three prizes and I have cashed 9 out of 13 times. So if we use the low of 12 I should have cashed roughly 4 times and I cashed 9 (and I am nothing special when compared to the general poker community).

I'm not saying it works for everyone but I have participated using this format with 4 different groups and I have never heard anyone complain after it is completed.

Oh I get it. I couldn't figure out how your tourneys were lasting 5 hours. It is 1/2 blinds for 2 hours first and then about 3 hours to end the tourney once the levels start going up.

TJS96

Yes the average stack when rebuys end will be around 200 to 250 chips. We play the first round at 1/2 also so you will have about 100 big blinds when the add on is done. Of course some will have more and some will have less.

TJS96

I guess we could start with 200 chips each and have blinds go up from 1/2 in 12 minute increments with no rebuys or add ons but then someone could be eliminated in the first 5 minutes. This way they have at least two hour in play for their entry fee. We also make the rebuys $20.00 so its not too expensive to get there. We are up to 15 players now so we will most likely hit our goal of 20. Based on past rebuy patterns we may be looking at at first prize of around $1,500. (at 40%,25,15,10 and 10).

Card Dead

I like that this is a different format, and I’ll probably attend one of these just to see how it plays if you have one on a Saturday evening.

Sunday afternoon just doesn’t work for me.

Card Dead

moose wrote: »

Oh I get it. I couldn't figure out how your tourneys were lasting 5 hours. It is 1/2 blinds for 2 hours first and then about 3 hours to end the tourney once the levels start going up.

TJS96

There has been a request to do the next one on a Saturday afternoon next time.