People doin chip tricks
Alot of u have read and commented on my post "my first tourney". One thing i noticed is alot of guys ther scared me at first because they could all do the chip shuffle thing and a few other tricks. So in my mind these were gonna be tough players. But after the first hour i seriously had to take note of how bad these players really were. Most at my table played really bad chasing gut shots and low flushes with terrible pot odds against them. Has anyone else ever noticed this? I myself cannot do this things mainly cuz i am an internet player. I thought to myself the whole time, how these guys should spend more time learning the important things of the game like pot odds, implied odds and so forth. Just a thought.
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The only thing that intimidates me at a poker table is that point when I realize that I just got my ass handed to me by someone. Getting badly outplayed is cause to be leary of a player at the table, or if he has lots of gold chains. Any hairy chested guy with lots of gold chains and possibly of middle eastern descent who looks like he just stepped out of a James Bond bakarat scene should be avoided at all costs.
Everytime I saw Dutch Boyd in the 2003 WSOP talking shit about how his chips tricks intimidated other players I wanted to fly down to Vegas to beat him with a pillow case full of grape soda cans.
Okay, maybe that is going a little too far - I think diet coke would have been the better play here...
Can we get a discussion going between the grape soda and the diet coke? All Aces - what's says you? Do you feel that smoking Dutch Boyd with a pillow case full of cola is the best way to play this situation? What about a simple roll of quarters? Would Dutch's teeth get smashed out more from a simple role of quarters, especially if I played them from early position (early being when Dutch wasn't looking)? What if he buddies from the crew jumped in - what would be the best time to fold this hand and run for the exits?
Any thoughts?
All i know is that all options listed above are +EV moves, for the question of which option is best, especially in a tournament situtation, i'll leave that to the professional ... poker players / mobsters
Get in line.. It amazes me that he screwed out a bunch of internet players for hundreds of thousands of dollars yet never got hospitalized..
Maybe I should open an Ebay auction for the brutal beaing of Dutch Boyd by a pillowsack full of soda pop cans. I could raise enough money to go to the 2005 WSOP and then administer the beating, and then play in the tourney...it's sheeer Genius! People could buy stakes in me, like $500 a can. I am sure there are enough guys out there who would love to see that happen to Dutch, including probably all of his own friends.
A year ago or longer I would have given some initial respect to a guy that can shuffle chips but not these days. Every clown that sits down at the table with his trucker cap on sideways is doing chip tricks and flicking their discards out the back of their hand.. Cuz that is what the "playas" are doing.
A year or so ago I started to learn to shuffle chips and a couple other tricks. I quickly lost desire to continue this education for a variety of reasons.
My spare time is at a premium these days and can be better used to learn to play better poker instead of playing with chips.
When I am involved in a hand I try to keep to a regular pattern to avoid giving off any tells. Playing with my chips may give something away.
With the internet, poker dvds and other sources it is easy for any beginners to shuffle chips like a pro. It means very little to me.
Red
At the 2003 WSOP Moneymaker correctly calls his huge all-in bet with only an underpair of 3's on a raggedy flop.
What's the point? If you watch the watch the coverage closely you'll spot Dutch's blunder. He does no chip tricks after he moves all-in. How is anyone supposed to respect that bet?
The key here: Never go all-in as you will run out of chips to do chip tricks with.
Esool's got the right idea here I think. Seeing someone with cool shades, a baseball cap, a crazy Freddy Deeb style shirt, and doing a lot of sweet chip tricks indicates that he has been watching a lot of poker on TV. Basically, the read I can get on someone doing chip tricks is that they have a TV, or at least fairly easy access to the same. :cool:
ScottyZ
rotflmao
You should beat him to death with a pillowcase full of club soda cans.
Why?
Cuz grape and cola stains are murder.
bahahahaha
Fascinating fact: almost all the players I meet who believe that chip shuffling has any kind of intimidation factor are originally internet players. They tend to practice while playing on the computer, probably thinking that it'll make them look professional if/when they go to a live game. Weird little phenomenon. Truth is, live players who are good at chip tricks usually learn them for something to do when they're bored, not because anybody is likely to be intimidated by them.
I've never bothered with chip tricks because I figure it'd be too easy for it to become a tell. There's a few regulars at my local casino who generally shuffle chips when they're nervous, for example.
1- So i always think about poker: What i did wrong or right in the last tourney.
2- Im from a small town without a lot of poker opportunities. When someone with an interest about poker see's the chips hes gonna come and ask about where and when whe play. Good way to get new players.
3- It annoys the crap outta my co-workers. Priceless