Such a basic question

literation

I was in a tourney at York recently where someone showed me their hand when we were heads up. I made a move to drag the pot but other players contested the hand is live until it hits the muck. The cards were turned to see my reaction.
Later in the tourney I saw someone else repeat this card turn trick.

I'm tuning in to some poker on tv tonight. It's the Partypoker European Open. A Canadian player showed his hand seemingly looking to gauge his opponents reaction. It seemed the Toronto player thought this was a legal move as well. However, the TD enforced the hand is dead with the cards being exposed. This is the way I've always played but there seems to be some confusion arising on this basic point.

btw, if anyone is watching this tourney the hand with the deuce on the turn for the Canadian Manfredi was stunning.

MickeyHoldem

I seen that as well.... and found it odd.... Here's the relevant rule from RRoP: Tournament section:

Showing cards from a live hand during the action injures the rights of other players still competing in an event, who wish to see contestants eliminated. A player may not show any cards during a deal (unless the event has only two remaining players). If a player deliberately shows a card, the player may be penalized (but his hand will not be ruled dead). Verbally stating one’s hand during the play may be penalized.

Of course, theplayers may have been given a set of rules for the tournament and this may have been covered in them. Who knows?

Goms27

I just made another post regarding the incident and I always took it that the cards were dead. Interesting that they are not!

UglyJimStudly

literation wrote:

I'm tuning in to some poker on tv tonight. It's the Partypoker European Open. A Canadian player showed his hand seemingly looking to gauge his opponents reaction. It seemed the Toronto player thought this was a legal move as well. However, the TD enforced the hand is dead with the cards being exposed. This is the way I've always played but there seems to be some confusion arising on this basic point.

It's usually a house or table rule, rather than a universal rule of poker; at a lot of high stakes games, the flip-cards-for-tells when deciding whether to call an all-in is considered normal play. At lower limits and in tournaments, it's discouraged along with a lot of other angling, mostly because it slows the game down.