My Poker playing thread

So I am a casual player who barely ever plays. I am a lifetime losing player but I hope to one day be a crusher. Here is where I will post my random poker sessions.

My first session:

So yesterday I played for the first time in around 5 months and I have to say that it went horribly. I was very "rusty" and managed to punt off around $300 in no time. Before I knew it I was in for $500. I was trying to bluff out old people that will hang on for dear life with top pair and just try to portray a crazy image instead of just letting it play out. By the time I got settled I had maybe $150 left and at that point you are one cooler hand from busting. I decided that set a stop loss of $500 for the day, I was playing horribly and towards the end of the session when I actually settled down I seemed to not be able to catch a break .I nursed a short stack for a long long time before busting with a jack high flush to a full house. This session was completely my fault and I pretty much punted away $500 in 3 hours. Sigh..not a good start....
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  • jaykay wrote: »
    I hope to one day be a crusher.

    I was trying to bluff out old people

    I pretty much punted away $500 in 3 hours. Sigh..not a good start....

    Summed it up for you...>:D

    Oh and re-read the input you got from this thread and pay attention..

    http://www.pokerforum.ca/f6/2-5-live-player-making-100k-year-32751/

    $500. to punt off in one session is not a good omen to becoming a winning live player..

    If you do much "forcing it" at 1/2 you will be a loser long term. Selective aggression is the way to go, I see a few players playing that way, and winning, but not many.. Now if only I could.:D
  • Don't bluff the unbluffable.
  • $500 for that lesson is probably a bargain. call it a win.
  • Do you ever have one of those sessions where you just realized you just play like complete shit? That was one of those sessions. At the end of it when I was nursing a short stack I was thinking to myself.."no matter what happens this is completely your fault".

    Selective aggression is a good thing, but I believe that my "rustiness" made it so I didn't recognize the right spots. I didn't have a "feel" for the dynamic of the table and was just trying to go by with pure aggession.

    I'm not proud of myself for the way I played.
  • you should post up a few hands, try to figure out what you did wrong and learn from it
  • Also post position, relative stack sizes and your assessment of the opponents...
  • Where were you playing ? Was it 1-2 ?
  • jaykay wrote: »
    At the end of it when I was nursing a short stack I was thinking to myself.."no matter what happens this is completely your fault".
    Never play a shortstack in a cash game, imo. Either reload or quit.
  • playing shortstack is not bad if you think it's +EV and that others do not know how to play against you
    on the other hand you should be able to run fast or\and to protect yourself
    as far as losing 2.5bi or whatever... variance is huge my friend just keep grinding and playing some good solid poker and you will be making that back in no time ;)
  • I give you thumbs up for at least being honest and starting on a down session. Never play with less than 30BB or you are naturally prone to shove.
  • I don't really mind playing short stack to be honest. I feel like I play really well short stacked but I know I am extremely vulnerable to getting sucked out on. Sometimes when you know you can only play a session once a week you don't want to leave with only $70 left in your stack, you would rather try to battle your way back.

    Also played another session the other day. I had a profit of +86 dollars.

    Not really the kind of winning session that I wanted but having any winning session is a plus I guess. Most importantly I feel like I was playing much better then my first session even though I did make some mistakes.

    I was playing much much better but was still making some marginal calls. I want to go over one hand...sorry for the way that I format it..this is my first time typing out any hand.

    I had 3-5 suited (clubs) and I'm on the button. A guy in the cut off raises to 12 pre-flop. There are 4 other callers so I decide to make the call.

    The pot is $72

    Flop comes down 4c, 6c, Js. Guy that raised pre-flop shoves all-in for $90. I have around $380 in my stack at this point. In the hand previous he lost a pretty big pot and seemed like he was on tilt. I put him on most likely having A-K or a A-Q type of hand and tilt shoving on the flop to just take it right there, other hands that I thought were possible were overpair, maybe A-J, but I thought it was likely he had only 2 overs. I was 50/50 on making this call but decided to call because I thought that my 3 or 5 out had a very good chance of being good as well. He ended up having A-9 of clubs with the bigger flush draw, turn and the river were blanks and he won with Ace high.

    Would you have made the call there? I feel like this was a very marginal situation that I could either fold or call and it wont really be a mistake but I tend to make the calls in these situations alot, I'm not sure of the exact math but I think I'm a favourite in alot of these types of hands. The way that he put the chips into the pot pretty much eliminated the possibility of an overpair here and I was pretty positive he had some kind of ace high hand, just didn't put him on a Ace high flush draw.

    Should I be folding in this situation especially considering his stack size?
  • I'll try to elaborate later on a few things that stand out in your post, but I would have played that hand the same way. You are getting 5 or 6 to 1 pre flop, and then hit basically a miracle flop... Never folding there. Unlucky that he had clubs dominated but thats only a small part of his range.
  • I have folded an oesfd but only once and that was with significant action on front of me. One guy had a set, one had a nut flush draw and one had a higher straight draw. It was very read dependent... Plus I'm an extreme nit.

    Heads up I would never fold. I think you are a statistical favorite against a higher flush draw plus there's a ton of dead money there that would make this an easy call. You are huge against an overpair.
  • ^ this. If you trust your read of AK, you are crushing at 66%. To put the "does he have a pair" question in perspective though - you still have 41% equity even against JJ (top set). Against AA you are a 55% favorite. Point is - this is a case where his hand doesn't really matter that much. Interestingly, you are still 42% against his exact hand... that one surprised me.

    More importantly though, there's just something special about getting it in with 5 high!
  • I had 3-5 suited (clubs) and I'm on the button. A guy in the cut off raises to 12 pre-flop. There are 4 other callers so I decide to make the call.

    The pot is $72

    I'm confused.... you're on the button and the cutoff raises... there are no callers yet when you make your call... all these calls must have happened behind you...

    You should have folded!
  • I'm confused.... you're on the button and the cutoff raises... there are no callers yet when you make your call... all these calls must have happened behind you...

    You should have folded!

    sorry I think I meant under the gun instead of cut off...whatever is after the big blind is what I meant
  • I understand the math of why the initial call was made, but to me you're still just throwing $12 away. With so many callers, unless you hit said "miracle flop" then you've got to fold anyway. And the worst case is you get a flop like this where you can't fold, and end up losing a big pot.

    I guess that's why I never win much, but never lose much either.

    BTW, I've been on the losing end of this scenario online. I had the overpair and Ace high flush draw and the other guy ended up making the low straight flush. Lost a huge pot. :(
  • kwsteve wrote: »
    I understand the math of why the initial call was made, but to me you're still just throwing $12 away. (

    I shove here and take the pot down pre. Never folding on this flop. Likely re-raising.
  • JimmyHo wrote: »
    I shove here and take the pot down pre. Never folding on this flop. Likely re-raising.

    Oh I would fold, but it sounds like the game is pretty loose. Shove pre and there's no guarantee everyone folds. You're hanging out to dry with 3-5 suited.
  • kwsteve wrote: »
    I understand the math of why the initial call was made, but to me you're still just throwing $12 away. With so many callers, unless you hit said "miracle flop" then you've got to fold anyway. And the worst case is you get a flop like this where you can't fold, and end up losing a big pot.

    I guess that's why I never win much, but never lose much either.

    BTW, I've been on the losing end of this scenario online. I had the overpair and Ace high flush draw and the other guy ended up making the low straight flush. Lost a huge pot. :(

    If I made the fold there pre-flop then you might as well get a gun and shoot me in the face.

    I feel like if you don't make a call there then you shouldn't be playing poker at all.

    Just my opinion though..
  • ok... so UTG raises to $12 and 4 calling stations are in the pot... you have 35s on the button. FOLD!

    In all seriousness, just how many flops do you think hit your hand?? You should try and work out the answer!

    You are throwing $12 away!!

    Learn to play tight agressive poker. And by tight... I mean fucking squeaky tight! you should be able to beat any 1-2NL game spread in any casino by playing this way. Live players are terrible. You should be folding 85% of your hands UTG and 75% on the button... TIGHT.

    Read some books!
    Read some books!
    Read some more books!

    do this for 4 months... if you are still a losing player after this... Quit poker!

    But you won't be... you may be bored silly waiting for premium hands, but you should be in the black.

    after that you can learn to widen you talents... Good luck!
  • jaykay any updates, or is your poker career over before it started?
  • ok... so UTG raises to $12 and 4 calling stations are in the pot... you have 35s on the button. FOLD!

    In all seriousness, just how many flops do you think hit your hand?? You should try and work out the answer!

    You are throwing $12 away!!

    Learn to play tight agressive poker. And by tight... I mean fucking squeaky tight! you should be able to beat any 1-2NL game spread in any casino by playing this way. Live players are terrible. You should be folding 85% of your hands UTG and 75% on the button... TIGHT.

    Read some books!
    Read some books!
    Read some more books!

    do this for 4 months... if you are still a losing player after this... Quit poker!

    But you won't be... you may be bored silly waiting for premium hands, but you should be in the black.

    after that you can learn to widen you talents... Good luck!

    nah
  • payperview wrote: »
    jaykay any updates, or is your poker career over before it started?

    heard he threw it all away and moved to BC
  • payperview wrote: »
    jaykay any updates, or is your poker career over before it started?

    ..
  • ok... so UTG raises to $12 and 4 calling stations are in the pot... you have 35s on the button. FOLD!

    In all seriousness, just how many flops do you think hit your hand?? You should try and work out the answer!

    You are throwing $12 away!!

    Learn to play tight agressive poker. And by tight... I mean fucking squeaky tight! you should be able to beat any 1-2NL game spread in any casino by playing this way. Live players are terrible. You should be folding 85% of your hands UTG and 75% on the button... TIGHT.

    Read some books!
    Read some books!
    Read some more books!

    do this for 4 months... if you are still a losing player after this... Quit poker!

    But you won't be... you may be bored silly waiting for premium hands, but you should be in the black.

    after that you can learn to widen you talents... Good luck!

    I think this is generally good advice however in my hand situation I don't see it as throwing $12 away. I had potential to make much more in the pot and also I know that the pre-flop raiser is going to continuation bet almost any board and depending on the board I can take away alot of pots from him. Me being in position and seeing everyone else act to his C-bet gives me a huge huge edge in the pot. Also, if I miss everything and I don't feel like getting creative I can easily fold and I can only lose $12 with the chance to win a minimum of $72. I would say in this case that my call pre-flop was an absolute no brainer.
  • GTA Poker wrote: »
    heard he through it all away and moved to BC

    I actually spent a few hours going through his threads and I find it hilarious that I'm being compared to him. (kfed guy) Now I actually know what you guys are referring to.

    I cannot believe that he was on these forums..must have been really really entertaining..I'm kind of disappointed he's no longer here..I feel actually really really bad for him...He tried sooo hard to act like a baller and a high stakes player and he was just a busto degenerate loser the entire time.

    Actually, I'm really offended that you are comparing me to him..WTF
  • i'm sure the comparison is just for jokes. you are no where close to the infamous fed.
  • 5 people already in the pot $12 and you have the button... and it a 1/2 game.. i'm not folding there.
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