which book is better?

ConfusedONE

for Beginners:

which book is better? :?:

Winner's Guide To Texas Hold'em Poker

or Poker For Dummies

any others?


thanks,
CO

kwplayer

I think the Lee Jones book is best ... and you know I can't even remember the title to it ... Low Limit hold'em or something maybe?

Granted you can just go and get the Sklansky books and work up from there.

ScottyZ

I didn't think Winner's Guide to Texas Holdem Poker was good. Poker for Dummies is a good overview, sort of like a poker "general interest" book. Poker for Dummies may be worth reading, but won't teach you much about strategy.

Two excellent strategy books for beginners are:

Winning Low Limit Holdem by Lee Jones

Winning at Poker by Dave Scharf

ScottyZ

ConfusedONE

kwplayer wrote:

I think the Lee Jones book is best ... and you know I can't even remember the title to it ... Low Limit hold'em or something maybe?

Granted you can just go and get the Sklansky books and work up from there.

Sklansky books? :?: only for advanced players? :unsure: :?:

ScottyZ

Granted you can just go and get the Sklansky books and work up from there.

Funny that you mention this. The first poker book I read was Theory of Poker... talk about a trial by fire. 8)

Theory of Poker is by no means an excessively difficult book to read, but it's a lot easier to grasp many of the concepts when you have some real playing time under your belt. And by *real* playing time, I mean playing with at least some idea of what you're doing in terms of strategy.

Theory of Poker is not for beginners, but it's what I would recommend reading next after reading the Jones & Scharf books, and logging a little time at your local 3-6 game. 8)

ScottyZ

ConfusedONE

ScottyZ wrote:

I didn't think Winner's Guide to Texas Holdem Poker was good. Poker for Dummies is a good overview, sort of like a poker "general interest" book. Poker for Dummies may be worth reading, but won't teach you much about strategy.

Two excellent strategy books for beginners are:

Winning Low Limit Holdem by Lee Jones

Winning at Poker by Dave Scharf

ScottyZ

will checkem out...thanks

ScottyZ

ConfusedONE wrote:

kwplayer wrote:

I think the Lee Jones book is best ... and you know I can't even remember the title to it ... Low Limit hold'em or something maybe?

Granted you can just go and get the Sklansky books and work up from there.

Sklansky books? :?: only for advanced players? :unsure: :?:

I think kwplayer was joking about the Sklansky books. I would say these books are a little too advanced for beginners.

ScottyZ

ConfusedONE

ScottyZ wrote:

ConfusedONE wrote:

kwplayer wrote:

I think the Lee Jones book is best ... and you know I can't even remember the title to it ... Low Limit hold'em or something maybe?

Granted you can just go and get the Sklansky books and work up from there.

Sklansky books? :?: only for advanced players? :unsure: :?:

I think kwplayer was joking about the Sklansky books. I would say these books are a little too advanced for beginners.

ScottyZ

OIC

ummm... are there any videos out there like James Coburn's The Winning Strategy Series

kwplayer

ROTFL! James Colburn. I guess I shouldn't comment because I haven't seen those tapes ... but i guess i figure they suck.

I enjoyed watching Mike Caro's poker tells videos (2). I thought they were worth the money but a lot of the stuff isn't applicable to hold'em (my main game) so I mean you have to take what you can get.

I also had the Mike Caro's Poker Poker Seminar. That one I didn't much care for ... in fact as I learned more and more about poker Caro has kind of fell out of favour with me. Perhaps I am being too harsh ... who knows.

Granted I just read some of his recent columns and I thought they were fairly good and though provoking so maybe I am out to lunch.

Don't think I have any other tapes other than poker movies and WSOP tapes... Someone told me Howard Lederer thing sucks very badly but I have not seen it yet. The guy that told me knows quite a bit about poker so I am going to go with his opinion and suggest it is not worth the funds.

ScottyZ

ummm... are there any videos out there like James Coburn's The Winning Strategy Series

Don't think so. There actually isn't a lot out there on video in the "learning poker" area.

ScottyZ

ConfusedONE

ScottyZ wrote:

ummm... are there any videos out there like James Coburn's The Winning Strategy Series

Don't think so. There actually isn't a lot out there on video in the "learning poker" area.

ScottyZ

hmmm interesting
maybe in a year someone will make a tutorial video
maybe get one of them pro's and mkt it LOL
hmmm interesting...for now will do some reading i guess :roll:

ConfusedONE

kwplayer wrote:

ROTFL! James Colburn. I guess I shouldn't comment because I haven't seen those tapes ... but i guess i figure they suck.

LOL i got the Blackjack and Craps for Xmas 2 years ago
the CRAPS was good cuz i dont know anything or much about CRAPS so the video helped

as for the Blackjack one...it was alright cuz i've already know about BlackJack LOL

there's one for Slots with video poker...nothing for Holdem Poker though

Dan808

i think ur best bet for a good beginner book is dave scharf's...and if you get it from chapters, u'll find it for $9.99...a great price.

i think it's a very helpful book for most beginning players.

ConfusedONE

Dan wrote:

i think ur best bet for a good beginner book is dave scharf's...and if you get it from chapters, u'll find it for $9.99...a great price.

i think it's a very helpful book for most beginning players.

Winning at Poker
Author: Dave Scharf
Spiral Bound
ISBN:1841931721
Published: December 2003
Temporarily Unavailable to Order
Our Price: $9.99

will check other book stores...thanks

ScottyZ

It should be available at B&M Chapters. Also, Amazon.ca has it available, but it's more expensive since they price it in USD. (CDN$9.99 at Chapters, USD$9.99 at Amazon.ca)

ScottyZ

ConfusedONE

ScottyZ wrote:

It should be available at B&M Chapters. Also, Amazon.ca has it available, but it's more expensive since they price it in USD. (CDN$9.99 at Chapters, USD$9.99 at Amazon.ca)

ScottyZ

just found out 1 of the chapters has a couple copies in stock...gonna go check it out this w/e

$9.99 good price

The_Gamblar

i believe that the best book out there for internet play would be internet texas holdem by matthew hilger.. if ur a strictly an internet player i would say that is the best poker for beginners and intermediate players ..

ConfusedONE

The_Gamblar wrote:

i believe that the best book out there for internet play would be internet texas holdem by matthew hilger.. if ur a strictly an internet player i would say that is the best poker for beginners and intermediate players ..

do ya have this book? if so, how ya rate it?

thanks,
CO

Tilter

Do not get the Dummies book.

I believe it is 40% off at amazon.ca but it will not help your game at all. Only helps if you want a big rule book about different types of poker.
Suggest, get a the other book (haven;t read it, but has to be better than dummies because that is what they think you are)

ConfusedONE

Tilter wrote:

Do not get the Dummies book.

I believe it is 40% off at amazon.ca but it will not help your game at all. Only helps if you want a big rule book about different types of poker.
Suggest, get a the other book (haven;t read it, but has to be better than dummies because that is what they think you are)

ok i wont get the Dummies book :shock:

ScottyZ

Suggest, get a the other book (haven;t read it, but has to be better than dummies because that is what they think you are)

I have read both of the books in the original post, and I thought Poker for Dummies was better. However, there are a lot of books out there which are better than both of these.

ScottyZ

TreC

I bought the Lee Jones book, Winning Low Limit Hold'em and put what I read to practice last night. I was playing on party poker(to get the free chips) on a $.50/$1 table because I'm a rookie and didn't want to lose all my money. I just started playing with $10 and after my 125 raked hands it had turned into $60. I found that after reading the book I was folding hands and betting differently than I had done in past home games I've played. I actually won money instead of just breaking even or losing.

I give it 2 thumbs up.

ConfusedONE

TreC wrote:

I bought the Lee Jones book, Winning Low Limit Hold'em and put what I read to practice last night. I was playing on party poker(to get the free chips) on a $.50/$1 table because I'm a rookie and didn't want to lose all my money. I just started playing with $10 and after my 125 raked hands it had turned into $60. I found that after reading the book I was folding hands and betting differently than I had done in past home games I've played. I actually won money instead of just breaking even or losing.

I give it 2 thumbs up.

wtg TreC

so how many hours did it take to get your 125 raked hands

thanks,
CO

TreC

It took about 4 hours. I signed up around 9pm and finished just before 1am. The free chips are a really good deal. I signed up for $100, won $60, and got a $25 bonus from partypoker for playing the 125 hands. So for signing up I pretty much got $85 plus a free set of chips. Now I'll probably just pull out the $100 I put in and just play with other $85

ConfusedONE

TreC wrote:

It took about 4 hours. I signed up around 9pm and finished just before 1am. The free chips are a really good deal. I signed up for $100, won $60, and got a $25 bonus from partypoker for playing the 125 hands. So for signing up I pretty much got $85 plus a free set of chips.

sweeeeeeeet

TreC wrote:

Now I'll probably just pull out the $100 I put in and just play with other $85

yay...in the money

regards,
CO

Tilter

Hhhmmm, how is PP competition? I have been playing mostly NL for a while and haven't played solid limit games for a long time.

Lee Jones book was good for a beginner and is a necessity for all beginners.

also CO, good choice on not getting the Dummies book. I brought it at a chapter for $30 when i first started, complete waste!

ScottyZ

Hhhmmm, how is PP competition?

There are no less than 3 major online poker sites with initials PP.

If you mean PartyPoker, then the games are softer than a grandmother's behind after she gets her full spa treatment.

ScottyZ

ConfusedONE

Tilter wrote:

Lee Jones book was good for a beginner and is a necessity for all beginners.

i'll add this one to the list along with Winning at Poker by Dave Scharf

Tilter wrote:

also CO, good choice on not getting the Dummies book. I brought it at a chapter for $30 when i first started, complete waste!

thanks,
CO

TreC

Tilter wrote:

Hhhmmm, how is PP competition? I have been playing mostly NL for a while and haven't played solid limit games for a long time.

I honestly couldn't tell you good or bad since it was my first time playing for money online. I found a lot of stupid people who would go right to a showdown when there are two aces showing on the table and all they got is a pair of fives in their hand and other dumb moves like that. I would probably chalk that one up to how things are done on a very low limit table.

ConfusedONE

TreC wrote:

Tilter wrote:

Hhhmmm, how is PP competition? I have been playing mostly NL for a while and haven't played solid limit games for a long time.

I honestly couldn't tell you good or bad since it was my first time playing for money online. I found a lot of stupid people who would go right to a showdown when there are two aces showing on the table and all they got is a pair of fives in their hand and other dumb moves like that. I would probably chalk that one up to how things are done on a very low limit table.

lol...yeah...stuped peepo...more FISH

Tilter

Dam, those are some fishes.

I guess I got to wait until next week until I pay of my Credit Card before I can make a deposit.

Thanks for the heads up!