Weird in a all-in folded hand
So I was playing in my super freeroll tournament Sunday and this hand happened (I wasn't in the hand but it's a situation I've never been in before).
2 players are battling it out on a paired board, they go all in.
Order to talk are :
Player 1
Player 2
Player 2 right after Player 1 called his all-in said "I have the straight" and showed his card, Player 1 then said ahh ok and threw his cards, face down on the table, he then picked them up and showed 44, someone on the table said , he's got a full house.
So, did he fold his hand? In an all-in call isn't he supposed to show his hand no matter what especially since he was first to talk?
The "tournament" director came and said that since HE picked up his card the hand is dead, he should have called the director who would have picked up the card. Is this the "correct" way ?
Just curious !
Edit:
I realize my title makes no sense... oops
2 players are battling it out on a paired board, they go all in.
Order to talk are :
Player 1
Player 2
Player 2 right after Player 1 called his all-in said "I have the straight" and showed his card, Player 1 then said ahh ok and threw his cards, face down on the table, he then picked them up and showed 44, someone on the table said , he's got a full house.
So, did he fold his hand? In an all-in call isn't he supposed to show his hand no matter what especially since he was first to talk?
The "tournament" director came and said that since HE picked up his card the hand is dead, he should have called the director who would have picked up the card. Is this the "correct" way ?
Just curious !
Edit:
I realize my title makes no sense... oops
Comments
Where did they land exactly? But sure sounds like he mucked them and they are dead.
Almost in the stack of folded cards, imo, his reaction was that he didn't see his FH and thought he was beat, later he kept saying "Oh it was a mistake I wanted to show my cards" but it sounded BS to me big time.
I was just surprised that the director said if he called him to pick up the hand it would have counted since, imo, putting your cards face down on the table is clearly a fold.
I believe the general consensus is "touch the muck, you're outta luck". But generally if you can clearly ID the cards and they haven't been mucked, you can play them. In home games and the like this tends to be the case.
Just another scenario where every asshole at the table think's they're a pro and yet can't understand basic fucking fundamentals of the game. I hate when people at local games show 1 card / ask to see the other guy's first and that kinda shit. Bottom line, you're not good enough for these games to make a difference - flip your cards.
Mark
I agree with the fact that everyone should have a fair chance and if I'm all-in I always show my cards just in case I missed something or the other person made a bad call, etc.
Well put. We have a home game friend, female, who is very laggy so she has a habit of not wanting to flip her hand. This weekend she mucked a royal flush after winning the pot, 2 seconds too late realizing she cost herself the 5k high hand jackpot and 5k to the table. She admits something similar has happened to her before. Bottom line is never mind trying to be fancy and think about what the hell is going on.
Player 1 shows his hand then throws the cards face down near the muck (3 people saw the cards). Someone out of the hand recognized he had the A-5 straight and Player 1 grabbed his hand back. Player 1 ended up doing the honorable thing and not contesting the pot.
So would this be any different since 3 people could verify the two cards he picked back off the table were his?
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