Any other way to play this ?

PokerStars Hand #109976231642: Tournament #843076955, $5.00+$0.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXXVIII (8000/16000) - 2014/01/11 16:03:46 ET
Table '843076955 300' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: RUBINKAZAN11 (873150 in chips)
Seat 2: Aleksey11999 (857385 in chips)
Seat 3: antartis1987 (234057 in chips)
Seat 4: S04Tigers (327639 in chips)
Seat 6: earthquakex (709924 in chips)
Seat 7: ocb&van (399556 in chips)
Seat 8: hobbittoss22 (327520 in chips)
Seat 9: djgolfcan (314842 in chips)
RUBINKAZAN11: posts the ante 2000
Aleksey11999: posts the ante 2000
antartis1987: posts the ante 2000
S04Tigers: posts the ante 2000
earthquakex: posts the ante 2000
ocb&van: posts the ante 2000
hobbittoss22: posts the ante 2000
djgolfcan: posts the ante 2000
ocb&van: posts small blind 8000
hobbittoss22: posts big blind 16000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to djgolfcan [Qd Qs]
djgolfcan: raises 16000 to 32000
RUBINKAZAN11: folds
Aleksey11999: folds
antartis1987: folds
S04Tigers: folds
earthquakex: folds
ocb&van: folds
hobbittoss22: calls 16000
*** FLOP *** [4s 5c Td]
hobbittoss22: bets 48000
djgolfcan: raises 48000 to 96000
hobbittoss22: calls 48000
*** TURN *** [4s 5c Td] [Kd]
hobbittoss22: bets 197520 and is all-in
djgolfcan: calls 184842 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (12678) returned to hobbittoss22
*** RIVER *** [4s 5c Td Kd] [8d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
hobbittoss22: shows [2d 4d] (a flush, King high)
djgolfcan: shows [Qd Qs] (a pair of Queens)
hobbittoss22 collected 649684 from pot
djgolfcan finished the tournament in 48th place and received $74.29.

Comments

  • Don't minraise the flop.
  • is there comfort knowing you lost to a clueless donkey?..probably not...me?..utg i shove my 20 bb in...other alternative?...shove all in when he donk bet with bottom pair.......you lose cause probably he calls., but if you shoved pre, he probably folds..or one would think he would fold 4/2 to an utg shove..and you win..
  • You got the money in as a sizeable favourite, i wouldn't over analyze it.

    I dont like to min-raise in general but it isnt like that flop was all that scary, and as it played out you convinced a pair of deuces to call... If you can see all the cards you have to love being called there.

    Just an unfortunate river card, thats all!
  • Few other thoughts

    Since this is clearly a tourney, you've been playing with these guys a while. The guy that called you called your raise with 2-4. Most times we are very happy thinking that people are donkey players and that they are mentally deficient. What has your play / image been saying to others - assuming basic competence - that makes him okay with that call pre-post flop?

    Also, min raises still cause cancer.

    Mark
  • Probably would have been best to fold on the flop. That is the first point that you could fold after you realized that (a) you were playing on Pokerstars, and (b) there was a chance that you were going to get all your chips in against someone that had you covered.

    (Obviously sarcastic, but it seems like the larger stack wins more than their fair share.)
  • Not a fan of the min raise either. Sometimes I just don't care if I am giving away the strength of my hand. The utg raise is already providing the table with info. It is cheap to see that flop when you are the bb and he should have a pretty good read on your holding (well maybe not him). Sometimes you gotta be happy with just the blinds and antes.

    Like Bfill said you did get it in good and he totally lucked out.
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