yo!
After recently rereading my past threads on this forum (which I’ve done many many times), I’ve come to better understand the issues people have had with me and why I was unable to clarify my view. If people don’t want to read my rambling or a mod wants to insta delete this please at least skip down to the bold. And if it gets deleted maybe at least the bold could remain for others to see.
I should get to the point as quick as possible as to why anyone should read this anyways. I did find a post I missed before, where I admitted I said that Jews run the world. I am still curious about the original post I referred to but it wasn’t clear to me before this that I even said that I said it. I have much to explain but I’ll try to be concise at this point, I wasn’t very knowledgeable on these specific things, and really had just learned about them. I really meant Israel runs the world (which I will explain later that I didn’t even think that is true), as I was implying being Israeli meant being Jewish by default. I somewhat knew the difference, and it doesn’t necessarily fix things, but I meant to suggest an Israeli government control, not a Jewish peoples.
This also pertains to another post about Jews in the American government, I really meant to point at duel Israeli nationals not Jews. Again this doesn’t fix things, but I really struggled to understand what people were so upset about and re reading it I understand better.
I guess the main issue people had was me posting the Holocaust denial video. I certainly didn’t mean to imply that the Holocaust didn’t happen. Many people were asking “do you believe it happened? Do you? Do you?” But I wouldn’t really answer. This isn’t because I was afraid to say how I felt, it’s because I didn’t want people to be able to make it so easy and black and white. To be clear, the holocaust happened, and it was big and awful, but I mean the whole issue of holocaust deniers isn’t so black and white.
I meant to point out that these people have what THEY FEEL are legitimate concerns about the historical accounts of this event. I’m not saying their concerns are valid, all I meant to ultimately point out is the PEOPLE with the concerns ARE valid. And we should not ostracize them, condemn them, hate them, and cast them out for it. If nothing else you fuel these people’s ignorance and misunderstandings further by doing so.
What became quite ironic is this is what happened to me. Because of my perceived beliefs, I was cast out, with no ability to explain or defend myself. Now again to be clear, I had time to explain, and I tried, but I had no idea I would get perma banned, or I might have handled it differently (quicker). Actually I probably didn’t understand my predicament well enough anyways.
I was asked to present my world view (in jest), so I began to do so but I choose to start with something that had shock value, a view that Jews (Israel) run the world, and once I had everyone’s attention I was to bring up other points of view such as the US agenda or its economic ties with China etc. To eventually point out that it’s the layman that believes in such false divisions such as nationality, race, religious differences, etc., and that those with power in this world do not believe in or only see in such divisions.
So I have much more to say on this, and I would like to explain to anyone specifically that would appreciate and give me a chance to clarify. I mean specifically to each individual (even publicly) rather than addressing a group.
I came across a documentary recently that was very eye opening in which the teacher of a uni class slowly started to create a mock Nazism experiment, slowly convincing the class to accept harsher and harsher suppressive (non violent) rules, until it got completely out of hand, and eventually people started to conform lest they fear for their lives. At first they were worried about their grades, but soon the students escalated the game to a scary level.
The moral is that the Nazi regime was not a German disease. It is something we are each capable of given a certain breading ground as circumstances. I detest what the Nazis did, and what they represent and my heart goes out for all the Jews and non Jews that suffered and continue to suffer. But I do also feel for the Nazi men…the lost souls that didn’t understand what they were doing and what they had become.
You see, I understand the holocaust to be a tragedy not vs Jews, but humanity. And in that we might understand that it was not the Nazis that committed the horrors, but again humanity. We are each the victim and the guilty. But to admit the truth to that, you have to admit that you yourself are not free of such sin, or that given the exact same circumstances you might be coerced to act the same way. To call it only a Jewish tragedy is really to separate yourself from Jews and see them as separate from you. It was a human tragedy, committed by humans on humans. I realize now my words didn’t reflect this, but it’s how I felt about these things for a very long time.
This is what I meant to point out. Whether it is correct or worthy or not, that was my intention of all that mess.
I realize some will suggest it’s a cop out, and I don’t expect you to take my word for it. But if you scrutinize my past words with the context of the threads, and do it with sincerity for the quest for truth, you’ll find my words ring true to what I explain now, and fall in line with the rest of my character.
I have re-read those threads many times, and until recently I truly didn’t understand what the fuss was about, so I do understand why my attempts to explain were to no avail. I truly take great pains not to hate anyone or any group and I was very confused on how that didn’t shine through, I’m not so confused on that now.
I have sent numerous apologies and clarifications to the mods and admin with no reply. We can’t do this to people whose opinions on the world differ from ours just because we disagree with them or feel their views are unjust. To do so is to isolate them in this world, and it’s that isolation that breeds ignorance and ignorance is the root cause of violence.
Above all I want to apologize to those people who were truly upset and affected by my words. Specifically to those that enjoyed and appreciated my presence, and were shocked and disappointed by the content of those threads. I apologize, and I am sorry for that and I admit to my own ignorance.
I would certainly like the chance to apologize and clarify to each individual that would like to (and therefore deserves to) hear it. We all lost out because of this, if I could take it back and do it differently I would. But I can assure you all that before I was cut off I was leading to an explanation of a holistic view of this world, with no prejudicial divisions between anyone, which is what I have believed in for a very very long time, something very hard to explain but very important.
I do see now why people thought it was true I was antisemtic, and I do (now) recognize examples of posts that lead people to that conclusion. I didn’t understand it before because I didn’t understand clear enough the words I was using to convey my thoughts.
I should get to the point as quick as possible as to why anyone should read this anyways. I did find a post I missed before, where I admitted I said that Jews run the world. I am still curious about the original post I referred to but it wasn’t clear to me before this that I even said that I said it. I have much to explain but I’ll try to be concise at this point, I wasn’t very knowledgeable on these specific things, and really had just learned about them. I really meant Israel runs the world (which I will explain later that I didn’t even think that is true), as I was implying being Israeli meant being Jewish by default. I somewhat knew the difference, and it doesn’t necessarily fix things, but I meant to suggest an Israeli government control, not a Jewish peoples.
This also pertains to another post about Jews in the American government, I really meant to point at duel Israeli nationals not Jews. Again this doesn’t fix things, but I really struggled to understand what people were so upset about and re reading it I understand better.
I guess the main issue people had was me posting the Holocaust denial video. I certainly didn’t mean to imply that the Holocaust didn’t happen. Many people were asking “do you believe it happened? Do you? Do you?” But I wouldn’t really answer. This isn’t because I was afraid to say how I felt, it’s because I didn’t want people to be able to make it so easy and black and white. To be clear, the holocaust happened, and it was big and awful, but I mean the whole issue of holocaust deniers isn’t so black and white.
I meant to point out that these people have what THEY FEEL are legitimate concerns about the historical accounts of this event. I’m not saying their concerns are valid, all I meant to ultimately point out is the PEOPLE with the concerns ARE valid. And we should not ostracize them, condemn them, hate them, and cast them out for it. If nothing else you fuel these people’s ignorance and misunderstandings further by doing so.
What became quite ironic is this is what happened to me. Because of my perceived beliefs, I was cast out, with no ability to explain or defend myself. Now again to be clear, I had time to explain, and I tried, but I had no idea I would get perma banned, or I might have handled it differently (quicker). Actually I probably didn’t understand my predicament well enough anyways.
I was asked to present my world view (in jest), so I began to do so but I choose to start with something that had shock value, a view that Jews (Israel) run the world, and once I had everyone’s attention I was to bring up other points of view such as the US agenda or its economic ties with China etc. To eventually point out that it’s the layman that believes in such false divisions such as nationality, race, religious differences, etc., and that those with power in this world do not believe in or only see in such divisions.
So I have much more to say on this, and I would like to explain to anyone specifically that would appreciate and give me a chance to clarify. I mean specifically to each individual (even publicly) rather than addressing a group.
I came across a documentary recently that was very eye opening in which the teacher of a uni class slowly started to create a mock Nazism experiment, slowly convincing the class to accept harsher and harsher suppressive (non violent) rules, until it got completely out of hand, and eventually people started to conform lest they fear for their lives. At first they were worried about their grades, but soon the students escalated the game to a scary level.
The moral is that the Nazi regime was not a German disease. It is something we are each capable of given a certain breading ground as circumstances. I detest what the Nazis did, and what they represent and my heart goes out for all the Jews and non Jews that suffered and continue to suffer. But I do also feel for the Nazi men…the lost souls that didn’t understand what they were doing and what they had become.
You see, I understand the holocaust to be a tragedy not vs Jews, but humanity. And in that we might understand that it was not the Nazis that committed the horrors, but again humanity. We are each the victim and the guilty. But to admit the truth to that, you have to admit that you yourself are not free of such sin, or that given the exact same circumstances you might be coerced to act the same way. To call it only a Jewish tragedy is really to separate yourself from Jews and see them as separate from you. It was a human tragedy, committed by humans on humans. I realize now my words didn’t reflect this, but it’s how I felt about these things for a very long time.
This is what I meant to point out. Whether it is correct or worthy or not, that was my intention of all that mess.
I realize some will suggest it’s a cop out, and I don’t expect you to take my word for it. But if you scrutinize my past words with the context of the threads, and do it with sincerity for the quest for truth, you’ll find my words ring true to what I explain now, and fall in line with the rest of my character.
I have re-read those threads many times, and until recently I truly didn’t understand what the fuss was about, so I do understand why my attempts to explain were to no avail. I truly take great pains not to hate anyone or any group and I was very confused on how that didn’t shine through, I’m not so confused on that now.
I have sent numerous apologies and clarifications to the mods and admin with no reply. We can’t do this to people whose opinions on the world differ from ours just because we disagree with them or feel their views are unjust. To do so is to isolate them in this world, and it’s that isolation that breeds ignorance and ignorance is the root cause of violence.
Above all I want to apologize to those people who were truly upset and affected by my words. Specifically to those that enjoyed and appreciated my presence, and were shocked and disappointed by the content of those threads. I apologize, and I am sorry for that and I admit to my own ignorance.
I would certainly like the chance to apologize and clarify to each individual that would like to (and therefore deserves to) hear it. We all lost out because of this, if I could take it back and do it differently I would. But I can assure you all that before I was cut off I was leading to an explanation of a holistic view of this world, with no prejudicial divisions between anyone, which is what I have believed in for a very very long time, something very hard to explain but very important.
I do see now why people thought it was true I was antisemtic, and I do (now) recognize examples of posts that lead people to that conclusion. I didn’t understand it before because I didn’t understand clear enough the words I was using to convey my thoughts.
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darb
i know but....compassion.
visit my strat forum if ya'll want as well (feel free i mean)
Ya I know.
I just don't see the point of all this garbage on a POKER forum. Fuuuck!
tapatalk puts this here to annoy YOU
well not long ago I commented on nearly every single strat post since my year of exile but it was snap deleted. I still got them tho.
tapatalk puts this here to annoy YOU
no doubt!
you'd think a year would be long enough then:)
I didn't know that at the time, and it sounds like i'm lying because i'm not a total idiot, but I did it and it was a stupid thing to do.
We all do mistakes, I actually agree with you on certain things
Let's go back to poker and welcome back to the forum. Although you probably were banned before i joined so i don't know much about the problem.
Yes and if we can learn from those mistakes and understand the root of them we can improve our game dramatically!
I know right!
Esoteric Poker-F
Meta game and Mixing Strategies 1 draft
They're esoteric poker!
Then you are one of the peoples it was specifically meant to. And if you understand what I pointed out that I missed, then you would know that I re read some of your old counter points and I understand them now and their validity.
As for my writings, I'm sorry but I wrote them in a form that they probably won't be readable and enjoyable, but in the future they can be explained in depth maybe.
This was the initial offer, and it is (rightfully so) off the table.
"I didn't express myself well" is a cop out, darb was consistently asked to clarify, but his narcissistic ramblings and nonsensical responses only served to worsen things. He ego stroked himself as some form of mountain man of mystical knowledge, and had just the right number of lackeys to help him out (fedstanza and phillivey).
Perma-ban is perma-ban. I'm not saying this out of hate, as I'm likely going to be told, but out of fatigue. "A year is long enough"? You'd think a year would be long enough to stop obsessing over us.
Mark
Chicken wing deal night :P
Mark
Damn, missed it... Ours is Tuesdays... Where's the best wings there? Is that place close to Moose's good?
Mark has been told many times to take a chill pill, All you can do is correct people and if they want to keep looking stupid then that's their problem.
Only warning for you philli, we know you're only back because darb summoned you...
In fact the gun (loaded) is pointed at both of you... If darb is serious about reforming, his puppy will be restrained...
LOL, still wacko hey comp, get help. Darb did not "summon" me and I don't think Darb should even be here.
If you mean the Beaver & the Bulldog (which is essentially the only place in Cambridge I've heard has a wings night - Tuesday I believe) I haven't been.
Round Kitchener;
Miltons - 1/2 price on M/W
4/5 - Big wings, tasty sauce, crunch breading. Limited in choices though (Mild/Medium/Hot/Dry Cajun/Honey Garlic)
Montana's 1/2 price on mondays / during leaf games.
2.5/5 - price is alright, but only 4 flavours (mild, medium, hot, honey garlic), and not great.
All Star wings - Monday 1.5 lbs for the cost of 1lb.
3.5/5 - over 200 flavours, and no way of knowing what they are without the waitress reading off her cheat sheet makes ordering a pain. Good wings though when you find one you like
Kelsey's - Thursdays 1/2 price wings
3/5 - probably half a dozen flavours, nothing too special though.
Morty's - Thursdays (not sure what the deal is)
I'm not going to give a rating because I have been twice total. Legendary in KW though...
Williamsburg Arms - Wednesdays 1/2 price wings
3.5/5 - again, about half dozen flavours, nothing blew my hair back...
Mark
My "help" will be here shortly.. And if you think you are fooling anyone thinking we believe you showed up by co-incidence, you are nuts..
Thanks Mark, appreciate it all...
Nope did not know at all he was even going to post today, total surprise bud, get over yourself. It was Mark who brought me in today that and I need to get in touch with westside.
I was supporting your post above and you get defensive,lol. Talk about crazy.
If Darb wants to apologize then that's cool, If Milo or anyone wants to accept, that's cool of them, but I don't know why you people hang onto the past I can seriously tell you guys it's not worth it.
"Every day you're mad is a day you're not happy"
"Forget the past, worry about the future"
Sorry, Philli, but "the past" is how we learn to go forward into the future, and it is forgotten at our peril. As a smart man once said . . . forgive, but never forget.