$120.00 DEEP-DEEPSTACK 30,000 chip 20 minute blinds Re-Buy

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Shark is hosting a $120.00 DEEP-DEEPSTACK 30,000 chip 20 minute blinds Re-Buy, with a seat to the 1st place winner to the months end $1,000.00 guaranteed 1st Place winner.

All Members that RSVP and show up by 7:15 will receive a $5.00 discount voucher for the optional Add-On.

Sign up & Check us out at: Scarborough Sharks Poker Club (Scarborough, ON) - Meetup

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  • RAM_EhRAM_Eh
    Scarborough Sharks wrote: »
    Shark is hosting a $120.00 DEEP-DEEPSTACK 30,000 chip 20 minute blinds Re-Buy, with a seat to the 1st place winner to the months end $1,000.00 guaranteed 1st Place winner.

    All Members that RSVP and show up by 7:15 will receive a $5.00 discount voucher for the optional Add-On.

    Sign up & Check us out at: Scarborough Sharks Poker Club (Scarborough, ON) - Meetup


    so this is 30K rebuy? and an add on??? What time does it usually end...7pm the next day?
  • BlondeFishBlondeFish
    If you are already taking out $20 from the players' prize pool, why do you have to take an additional 50% from the add-ons?

    Has any forumers found any underground tournaments that are anywhere near the great value of those at Casino Brantford, Rama, Woodbine, Point Edward, Western Fair or Mohawk?
  • Scarborough SharksScarborough Sharks
    Scarborough Sharks wrote: »
    Shark is hosting a $120.00 DEEP-DEEPSTACK 30,000 chip 20 minute blinds Re-Buy, with a seat to the 1st place winner to the months end $1,000.00 guaranteed 1st Place winner.

    All Members that RSVP and show up by 7:15 will receive a $5.00 discount voucher for the optional Add-On.

    Sign up & Check us out at: Scarborough Sharks Poker Club (Scarborough, ON) - Meetup
    With the Ante structure, the game should run until 1:00 to 2:00 A.M. We appreciate any and all suggestions.

    We aim to try to have the club accommodate our members and what they are looking for in a good poker game.
  • Scarborough SharksScarborough Sharks
    BlondeFish wrote: »
    If you are already taking out $20 from the players' prize pool, why do you have to take an additional 50% from the add-ons?

    Has any forumers found any underground tournaments that are anywhere near the great value of those at Casino Brantford, Rama, Woodbine, Point Edward, Western Fair or Mohawk?
    Most of the feedback that we have from our members is that they enjoy the hot food that is provided, for these types of tournaments we have fresh hot food delivered in (which tends to cost a little more), as well as part of this is to build up the months end Guaranteed 1st place pay-out, also the near future major tournaments. Also, we give seats for every ten entries to our tournaments. thus adding more seats to both the present monthly and also larger satellites to come starting next month.

    As we are a new club, we are adjusting what & how we announce information, in full hopes to be clear any questions possible. We hope this helps and appreciate everything that helps us do so, both now and in the future.
  • BlondeFishBlondeFish
    Scarborough Sharks wrote: »
    ... for these types of tournaments we have fresh hot food delivered in...
    IMHO, most players just want to play poker, not to eat food that they will be paying for (just like Playground's $15 max rake/pot for their very expensive "free" food).
    As we are a new club, we are adjusting what & how we announce information, in full hopes to be clear any questions possible. We hope this helps and appreciate everything that helps us do so, both now and in the future.
    I like Toronto Aces Poker Club's $110 + $20 bounty + $10 expenses, so it seems that $10 out of the $140 cost or a reasonable 7% does not go to the prize pool. Most club tournaments listed are hard to figure out how much goes to the prize pool and if it's worth the drive instead of waiting for the many decent casino tournaments available in the GTA.

    In looking for which club to play regularly, I'm also hoping to find one that allows smoking outside or in a separate ventilated room.
  • Scarborough SharksScarborough Sharks
    BlondeFish wrote: »
    IMHO, most players just want to play poker, not to eat food that they will be paying for (just like Playground's $15 max rake/pot for their very expensive "free" food).
    I like Toronto Aces Poker Club's $110 + $20 bounty + $10 expenses, so it seems that $10 out of the $140 cost or a reasonable 7% does not go to the prize pool. Most club tournaments listed are hard to figure out how much goes to the prize pool and if it's worth the drive instead of waiting for the many decent casino tournaments available in the GTA.

    In looking for which club to play regularly, I'm also hoping to find one that allows smoking outside or in a separate ventilated room.
    What we do here at Sharks is for example, if the tournament is a Re-buy/Re-entry, we take any extra monies and add them to the prize pool, we do not keep any extra money for food or other stuff, we get partial money for food, expenses and monthly specials out of the original buy-ins and then add any extra to the prize pool for the players.

    We are moving to accommodate all members and we are not trying to get rich, we do have bills and the food was a starting idea and so far all the members that have played here happily mentioned that the food is good and that it is a good time break during the game, thus we keep it for the players. should we get a lot of responses that the members do not like the food or other things, we are happy to modify things for the players until we can get a good smooth feeling for all tournaments.

    Thanks all for your comments and questions, we appreciate the input greatly and hope for more to help us get to a better club.
  • BlondeFishBlondeFish
    But your webpage clearly states that only "50% of the Add-on total goes back into the prize pool."
    Scarborough Sharks wrote: »
    What we do here at Sharks is for example, if the tournament is a Re-buy/Re-entry, we take any extra monies and add them to the prize pool, we do not keep any extra money for food or other stuff, we get partial money for food, expenses and monthly specials out of the original buy-ins and then add any extra to the prize pool for the players.
  • compueasecompuease Admin
    If it isn't CLEARLY stated what is in the prize pool and what is withheld for anything else, I would not endorse.. Just too shady in my opinion.. Withholding for any future prizes, tournaments, freerolls, jackpots, etc is a no no. Lots of clubs have just disappeared in the past with no reconciling of monies withheld... If you play in raked undergrounds you take that risk, as well as the chance of violence... Any of us who have been around for a while are well aware.

    I am not talking about unraked games where a small amount is withheld for food, or "donation" to a real charity. The known safe and trustworthy games that we all know about such as OPT, YRPL, Buzzaards, Bristol, Cambridge card club, Moose's, etc are fine but ymmv on others... I'm sure there are other known safe and unraked games around the country that people can vouch for.
  • BlondeFishBlondeFish
    compuease wrote: »
    YRPL
    The problem is that 25% of your cost of playing does not go to the prize pool. Even I would go busto if I played enough tournaments where 25% of my buy-in doesn't go to the pool.
  • compueasecompuease Admin
    BlondeFish wrote: »
    The problem is that 25% of your cost of playing does not go to the prize pool. Even I would go busto if I played enough tournaments where 25% of my buy-in doesn't go to the pool.

    Re YRPL, See I don't agree with you here. Rocky does not make ANY money from these, this is strictly a recreational league, as are the others I mentioned. If you can't beat recreational players then go play with the pro's at the casino's...

    Remember, your purpose for playing might be different than others...

    And how do you calculate 25% coming out of the prize pool?
  • BlondeFishBlondeFish
    compuease wrote: »
    And how do you calculate 25% coming out of the prize pool?
    Your cost is $100 everytime you play, but only $75 goes to your prize pool, and this was confirmed to me by a forumer who used to play there. He agreed with me that one would probably lose their poker bankroll if they kept playing in such tournaments with 25% donation/expenses/fee/rake. It's fine if your buddies go there, so it's like spending to eat with friends and spending for poker entertainment.
  • compueasecompuease Admin
    BlondeFish wrote: »
    Your cost is $100 everytime you play, but only $75 goes to your prize pool, and this was confirmed to me by a forumer who used to play there. He agreed with me that one would probably lose their poker bankroll if they kept playing in such tournaments with 25% donation/expenses/fee/rake. It's fine if your buddies go there, so it's like spending to eat with friends and spending for poker entertainment.

    YOU are officially a nit, have you ever played at one of Rocky's events... Everyone has to eat you know... I think that $5. of the cost goes to charity as well, keeps the popo away, and do you expect Rocky to pay for that nice hall out of his pocket? At the casino do you consider the cost of eating, getting there, etc as part of the rake? If it gets right down to it I think probably <1% of the poker community really makes a decent amount per hour playing poker. Don't know which % you are part of, or even if you do, but if I was a betting man.......

    You seem to have a lot of friends etc that confirm your statements but they never come on here?

    Those approx. 100 people that play at YRPL regularily, they can't all be wrong can they? If I was closer and wanted to play more, I would much rather play there or OPT or Buzzzardds, etc., than a casino or shudder, an underground.

    And we should probably take this discussion out of poor sharks thread.:D
  • BlondeFishBlondeFish
    There is no need for a moderator to take this personally. I am simply stating the fact that 25% of the player's cost will not go to the prize pool. Being forced to pay for food to play poker (like Playground's $15 max rake) is very different from going to a casino then CHOOSING to eat with your friends & picking up the tab. If you and other forum friends go there regularly, I may go with you one day.
    compuease wrote: »
    YOU are officially a nit, have you ever played at one of Rocky's events... Everyone has to eat you know... I think that $5. of the cost goes to charity as well, keeps the popo away, and do you expect Rocky to pay for that nice hall out of his pocket? At the casino do you consider the cost of eating, getting there, etc as part of the rake? If it gets right down to it I think probably <1% of the poker community really makes a decent amount per hour playing poker. Don't know which % you are part of, or even if you do, but if I was a betting man.......

    You seem to have a lot of friends etc that confirm your statements but they never come on here?

    Those approx. 100 people that play at YRPL regularily, they can't all be wrong can they? If I was closer and wanted to play more, I would much rather play there than a casino or shudder, an underground.

    And we should probably take this discussion out of poor sharks thread.:D
  • compueasecompuease Admin
    BlondeFish wrote: »
    There is no need for a moderator to take this personally.
    Nothing personal from my part at all, I am just disputing your take on this... It also has nothing to do with me being a moderator or not, am I not allowed to have an opinion...? Or did you not like being called a nit? lol,, Welcome to my world, have been called that forever...;)

    The other place you may want to try is Buzzzardds, highly recommend..
  • Wetts1012Wetts1012
    compuease wrote: »
    You seem to have a lot of friends etc that confirm your statements but they never come on here?

    Could be me, I made a comment about this particular game. The rake from a players perspective is 25% and you just cant beat that long term, period (thats a fact).

    At 60 players, $300 goes to the charity and $1200 goes to the people running the game every time. I dont know what their costs are so I wont comment.

    I would probably go more often if they made the food optional and didnt penalize you in terms of chips for not buying.
  • compueasecompuease Admin
    Wetts1012 wrote: »
    I would probably go more often if they made the food optional and didnt penalize you in terms of chips for not buying.

    I do agree with this but there is no arguing he gets better regular crowds than almost anywhere else as far as I know.. We are way off the topic originally though so lets shut it down here and perhaps post in one of Rocky's threads..

    I do think that yourself, and probably Blondefish as well, likely just think of it as making decent money instead of recreation which is most peoples ultimate motivation... To me it has to be recreational unless you can make, maybe $20, an hour at it over and above costs..
  • BlondeFishBlondeFish
    Yes, this has been discussed before. There are basically two kinds of players: those who don't care much about the rake, EV, ROI, losing money, etc. & just wanna have fun, & a minority like Wetts1012, ReefAquarium and me who want the best of both worlds and are willing to put in the effort and win money while playing this fun hobby.
    compuease wrote: »
    I do think that yourself, and probably Blondefish as well, likely just think of it as making decent money instead of recreation which is most peoples ultimate motivation... To me it has to be recreational unless you can make, maybe $20, an hour at it over and above costs..
  • Scarborough SharksScarborough Sharks
    compuease wrote: »
    If it isn't CLEARLY stated what is in the prize pool and what is withheld for anything else, I would not endorse.. Just too shady in my opinion.. Withholding for any future prizes, tournaments, freerolls, jackpots, etc is a no no. Lots of clubs have just disappeared in the past with no reconciling of monies withheld... If you play in raked undergrounds you take that risk, as well as the chance of violence... Any of us who have been around for a while are well aware.

    I am not talking about unraked games where a small amount is withheld for food, or "donation" to a real charity. The known safe and trustworthy games that we all know about such as OPT, YRPL, Buzzaards, Bristol, Cambridge card club, Moose's, etc are fine but ymmv on others... I'm sure there are other known safe and unraked games around the country that people can vouch for.
    This true, we have made some posting errors, we have also now adjusted this, for example:
    This Saturday we are running a $120.00 buy-in with $90 to the prize pool and includes a $20.00 bounty, the remaining $10 goes as such - $5.00 for the club expenses and $5.00 to the $1,000.00 guaranteed end of the month tournament 1st place pay-out.
    We also offer those that RSVP and Arrive/Register in on time, (to help tardiness) a $5.00 discount to the add-on. thus if you buy a $10.00 add-on all money goes to the prize pool, for a $20.00 add-on - $5.00 helps for food and $10.00 to the Prize pool. again the club takes nothing.

    We really want to thank everyone for the post and suggestions and helping us correct our mistakes, and hope that more comments and questions will come to further help us provide a good and clear experience for all to enjoy.
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