WSOP-C Casino du Lac-Leamy, November 13-24, 2013
While WSOP.com still has these WSOP Circuit Events at Casino Montreal, the renovation delays have forced the November 13-24, 2013 stop to be moved to Casino Lac-Leamy in Gatineau, Quebec. It is only 10 minutes from downtown Ottawa, the capital of Canada. Both the River Rock Casino and Casino Lac-Leamy websites have still not posted their schedules, but here it is for Lac-Leamy.
A WSOP ring is awarded at every event. All Lac-Leamy events have a maximum of 350 players each day and start at noon, except for the Main Event which has a maximum of 400 players/run and Day 1B starts at 9 PM.
Event #1, Wednesday, November 13: $365
Event #2, Thursday, November 14: $580
Event #3, Friday, November 15: $365
Event #4, Saturday, November 16: $1,125
Event #5, Sunday, November 17: $580
Event #6, Monday, November 18: $365
Main Event #7: $1,675, 400 players max each of three days.
Day 1A, Tuesday, November 19, 12 PM
Day 1B, Tuesday, November 19, 9 PM
Day 1C, Wednesday, November 20, 12 PM
Final Day 2, Thursday, November 21
No Day 3+ ?
Event #8, Friday, November 22: $365
Event #9, Saturday, November 23, 12 p.m.: $365
Event #10, Sunday, November 24, 12 p.m.?: $365
1, boulevard du Casino, Gatineau, Québec, Canada J8Y 6W3
Contact: 1-855-429-4282 (toll-free) or (819) 772-2100; commentairescll@casino.qc.ca.
Unlike buying into a highly -EV US tournament, "game winnings are paid out in full and are non-taxable." Free Wi-Fi, parking, coat check service.
Verify any information before you make your decisions, but please let me know of any errors.
$1,675 ME: $1503.50 goes to players' prize pool + $46.50 3% "administration fee" + $125 "entry fee"; 10.2% total fees.
Patience Factor: 51. Blind-off time: 7 hours.
20,000 chips. 40 minutes for first 15 levels; 60 minutes to level 25, then 75 minutes.
Payouts: ~10.7% ITM. 1st - 21%, 2nd - 12.9%, 3rd - 9.5%.
Bling: winner gets Circuit Main Event Ring and a seat to the WSOP National Championship.
$1,125 Event #4: $1003.95 goes back to players + $31.05 admin fee + $90 entry fee; 10.8% total fees.
Patience Factor: 28.73. Blind-off time: 5.36 hours.
15,000 chips. 30 minutes for first 12 levels, 40 minutes from level 13-21, 50 minutes from level 22-27, then 60 minutes.
$580 buy-ins: $504.40 goes back to players + $15.60 admin fee + $60 entry fee; 13.0% total fees.
Patience Factor: 24.55. Blind-off time: 4.95 hours.
12,000 chips.
$365 buy-ins: $300.70 goes back to players + $9.30 administration fee + $55 entry fee; 17.6% total fees.
Patience Factor: 21.64. Blind-off time: 4.65 hours.
10,000 chips.
Comparison of WSOP River Rock (RR) and Lac-Leamy (LL):
- RR's ME starts on a Saturday while LL's ME starts on a Tuesday.
- RR has two $1,125, three $580 and only four $365 events, while LL has only one $1,125, only two $580 and six $365 events.
- While RR has six events scheduled for a duration of TWO days, LL has no events scheduled for two days.
- RR has PLO, FLHE, 6-Max and two Turbo NLHE events while LL doesn't have any poker variants.
Cash games at Lac-Leamy: Rake for 1/2 is 10% up to $7. For 2/5 & 5/5, 5% up to $10. Plus $1 BBJ rake. Up to $11 rake.
A better alternative may be Rideau Carleton Raceway with rake <= $5.
Family-friendly attractions in area: Parliament Hill, museums, Gatineau Park, free Wi-Fi; Cosmic Adventures.
A WSOP ring is awarded at every event. All Lac-Leamy events have a maximum of 350 players each day and start at noon, except for the Main Event which has a maximum of 400 players/run and Day 1B starts at 9 PM.
Event #1, Wednesday, November 13: $365
Event #2, Thursday, November 14: $580
Event #3, Friday, November 15: $365
Event #4, Saturday, November 16: $1,125
Event #5, Sunday, November 17: $580
Event #6, Monday, November 18: $365
Main Event #7: $1,675, 400 players max each of three days.
Day 1A, Tuesday, November 19, 12 PM
Day 1B, Tuesday, November 19, 9 PM
Day 1C, Wednesday, November 20, 12 PM
Final Day 2, Thursday, November 21
No Day 3+ ?
Event #8, Friday, November 22: $365
Event #9, Saturday, November 23, 12 p.m.: $365
Event #10, Sunday, November 24, 12 p.m.?: $365
1, boulevard du Casino, Gatineau, Québec, Canada J8Y 6W3
Contact: 1-855-429-4282 (toll-free) or (819) 772-2100; commentairescll@casino.qc.ca.
Unlike buying into a highly -EV US tournament, "game winnings are paid out in full and are non-taxable." Free Wi-Fi, parking, coat check service.
Verify any information before you make your decisions, but please let me know of any errors.
$1,675 ME: $1503.50 goes to players' prize pool + $46.50 3% "administration fee" + $125 "entry fee"; 10.2% total fees.
Patience Factor: 51. Blind-off time: 7 hours.
20,000 chips. 40 minutes for first 15 levels; 60 minutes to level 25, then 75 minutes.
Payouts: ~10.7% ITM. 1st - 21%, 2nd - 12.9%, 3rd - 9.5%.
Bling: winner gets Circuit Main Event Ring and a seat to the WSOP National Championship.
$1,125 Event #4: $1003.95 goes back to players + $31.05 admin fee + $90 entry fee; 10.8% total fees.
Patience Factor: 28.73. Blind-off time: 5.36 hours.
15,000 chips. 30 minutes for first 12 levels, 40 minutes from level 13-21, 50 minutes from level 22-27, then 60 minutes.
$580 buy-ins: $504.40 goes back to players + $15.60 admin fee + $60 entry fee; 13.0% total fees.
Patience Factor: 24.55. Blind-off time: 4.95 hours.
12,000 chips.
$365 buy-ins: $300.70 goes back to players + $9.30 administration fee + $55 entry fee; 17.6% total fees.
Patience Factor: 21.64. Blind-off time: 4.65 hours.
10,000 chips.
Comparison of WSOP River Rock (RR) and Lac-Leamy (LL):
- RR's ME starts on a Saturday while LL's ME starts on a Tuesday.
- RR has two $1,125, three $580 and only four $365 events, while LL has only one $1,125, only two $580 and six $365 events.
- While RR has six events scheduled for a duration of TWO days, LL has no events scheduled for two days.
- RR has PLO, FLHE, 6-Max and two Turbo NLHE events while LL doesn't have any poker variants.
Cash games at Lac-Leamy: Rake for 1/2 is 10% up to $7. For 2/5 & 5/5, 5% up to $10. Plus $1 BBJ rake. Up to $11 rake.
A better alternative may be Rideau Carleton Raceway with rake <= $5.
Family-friendly attractions in area: Parliament Hill, museums, Gatineau Park, free Wi-Fi; Cosmic Adventures.
Comments
Still no official schedule though
Hammond just got their schedule, so my guess is it'll be available a little over 1 month out?
I do hope something will change
Any idea if seats can be pre-purchased?
Where are you see the schedule?
http://casinosduquebec.com/cms/dms/casinos/lacleamy/promotions/wsopc/en/wsopc-calendrier-cll_27aout2013-en_13sept2013.pdf
10-player Satellites
$65 (43+22): 1st wins $365 seat & 2nd wins $65; rake seems to be 33.8%! :mad:
$95 (67.5+27.5): 1st wins $580 seat & 2nd wins $95; rake is 28.9%!
$165 (129+36): 1st wins $1,125 seat & 2nd wins $165; rake is 21.8%.
$220 (189.5+30.5): 1st wins $1,675 seat & 2nd wins $220; rake is 13.9%.
If anybody is interested in putting that high rake up to $360/satellite in the players' prize pool instead, see Rake-free satellites to WSOP/WPT.
$85 (60.83+24.17): 1 in 6 wins $365 seat; 28.4% rake.
$125 (96.67+28.33): 1 in 6 wins $580 seat; 22.6% rake.
$220 (187.50+32.50): 1 in 6 wins $1,125 seat; 14.7% rake.
$300 (279.17+20.83): 1 in 6 wins $1,675 seat; 6.9% rake.
What's the schedule for supers?
The well-hidden link is http://casinosduquebec.com/cms/dms/casinos/lacleamy/promotions/wsopc/en/wsopc-calendrier-cll_27aout2013-en_13sept2013_super_sat.pdf
I was thinking of going on P.A. Day on November 22, but the only events left are the three $365 events with 18% rake. The super satellites' buy-in for the"Player's Choice - $365" that weekend is $85, and I'm trying to find out how high the rake is.
I have verified that the total rake is up to $8 for 1/2 and up to $11 for 2/5+, so I'll have to skip the cash games in Quebec. Believe it or not, the poker room closes at 4 AM on weekdays, so degenerates won't be able to pay the high rake even during the WSOP-C.
Day 1A or the first run starts on Tuesday 12 PM, but the second run or 1B starts at 9 PM on the SAME DAY! ??? The final re-entry or 1C starts the next day at 12 PM. So the WSOP Circuit pros and other players that want three shots at the WSOP ME ring will have to play three deep stack tournaments within 24 hours and no sleep?!
I was told that there would be no Day 3 or 4 to play out who would be the Main Event champion like the other WSOP-C stops I've seen, but only a Day 2?!
Like most other casinos outside Ontario, Casino Lac-Leamy fails to properly disclose the extra 3% fee for staff gratuities. For the $85 super satellites (60.83+24.17), the rake is very hard to beat at 28.4%; I updated my previous post.
Bottom line: While playing at WSOP-C Lac-Leamy is better than buying into any US tournament, hopefully Quebec's government-run casinos will learn from River Rock, Playground and player feedback on what improvements to make for next time.
Appears there is a day 3 for main after all but midweek starting days and dual flights on Tuesday still happening ...really wanted to give this one a shot but looking at schedule for WPT at playground and results from FTP make it seem much more appealing... not to mention I can't wait to get back there since last years WPT event.
Since I still haven't checked out lac-leamy I may try to stay at a buddies in ottawa for the final weekend to play a few $365's then head to playground for the week of the 28th for some warm-up events before the WPT main ...anyone finding good deals for hotels in Montreal for this week please share.
I don't see anything listed other than the day 1s, but it does list it as a 4-day event in the gray column on the far left.
That's how I'm reading it as well ...4 day event beginning Tuesday, then becomes a 3 day event beginning Wednesday.
1. There is a Day 2 on Thursday, no day 3.
2. You can register by phone any day between 10am and 10pm with Credit Card for any event, including satellites, by calling 1-855-772-6262 x4047.
That's all I know.
Thanks for checking. Are you planning on going? I'm planning very tentatively for Nov 17-22.
If I go, planning on hitting the $300 satellite on Monday.
I'll be returning either Sunday or Monday (depends on the Sunday event) so you may have to figure out a flight/train/bus home if youre not on my schedule.