Impact of Bad Beat Jackpot

I'm curious how others think about this.

I think it affects the game in at least 2 ways:
* attracts gamblers so the games become looser
* encourages people to take speculative hands further in hopes of catching miracle cards.

The staff will tell you that to qualify, AAAKK must be beaten. If you look on the website, it says AAAQQ. The website also says the pot must be minimum $20 but the staff did not mention that. Probably not an issue if you have 2 hands that big.

The casino takes $1 per hand that goes past the flop. Odds of winning if everyone played every eligible hand all the way are around 1 in 100,000 at a 10-handed table. So around 1 in 200,000+ is a more realistic number. The casino keeps 10% for themselves, 10% to re-seed the next pot and pays out 80% for the BBJ. Has anyone ever heard of the BBJ getting bigger than $150k? #scamalert

What changes do you expect to see from games with BBJ?

What strategies do you use to maximize/compensate for this?

Comments

  • Gets more casual players into the room which is good. Ups the rake which is bad. I play identical.
  • Yeah, I don't think I alter my play because of the BBJ getting higher. I do alter my play when the table is looser naturally. How much a BBJ plays into this? No idea. I'm sure there's a small impact, though that would usually happen at night and on weekends, when the play tends to be much looser anyway, with or without a BBJ...
  • Out West, I've seen the bad beat get pretty ridiculous on a couple of occasions. Once at Boulevard casino just shy of 200K and once at Cascades in Langley where I believe it got closer to 230K. Once it reaches the 100K mark in any room the games get pretty wild which can be a great thing so long as you're not running terribly.

    I like to think it doesn't impact my play much as I realize the odds are against hitting. I've been playing in rooms around Vancouver for 7 years now and have been IN the room when the bad beat hit exactly twice. That number was once prior to last weekend.

    If I'm honest, I probably call raises more often in position with suited connectors, one gapped suited connectors etc, particularly if it looks like there's a big pot brewing.
  • dinobot wrote: »
    If I'm honest, I probably call raises more often in position with suited connectors, one gapped suited connectors etc, particularly if it looks like there's a big pot brewing.
    Mistake.. As you are reducing your chances of participating in a BB. Do you see why....?
  • im up lifetime like $215,000 in BBJPs (Once online fore 600k+ in 2011, once a few months later 52k at fallsview) so even if the rake kills me for $1 a hand over 50,000 live poker hands(forever) I wont mind! >:D>:D>:D

    also they bring in players and stuff so its good for the room but not as good for the fish i guess, i really dont mind BBJs but ive hit 2...
  • compuease wrote: »
    Mistake.. As you are reducing your chances of participating in a BB. Do you see why....?

    Harder to make two straight flushes when it's 79dd vs. 8Jdd? Where harder is defined as totally impossible.

    That said, I will still likely make that call in position because the pot will be large and because there's a big part of my brain that is a total damned idiot.
  • dinobot wrote: »
    Harder to make two straight flushes when it's 79dd vs. 8Jdd? Where harder is defined as totally impossible.

    That said, I will still likely make that call in position because the pot will be large and because there's a big part of my brain that is a total damned idiot.

    nah, we all get wide eyed at the thought of jackpots.. ;)
  • Monoxide wrote: »
    im up lifetime like $215,000 in BBJPs (Once online fore 600k+ in 2011, once a few months later 52k at fallsview) so even if the rake kills me for $1 a hand over 50,000 live poker hands(forever) I wont mind! >:D>:D>:D

    also they bring in players and stuff so its good for the room but not as good for the fish i guess, i really dont mind BBJs but ive hit 2...
    Lucky guy!
  • That you Fed?
    Unless there is some evidence from the mods that it's a multi-accounter like Fed, I don't think it's a good idea to keep accusing new playing members that they're somebody else bad.

    We almost lost betrthanphil when he first started posting, we may have lost Flopped_Nuts after he got accused of being philiivey but hopefully not lose Monoxide if he really does live in Barrie and plays at Rama & Fallsview. While all the Rama and Brantford tournaments keep selling out, no forumers seemed to play live anymore until new members like Flopped_Nuts and Monoxide replied to my threads.
  • BlondeFish wrote: »
    Unless there is some evidence from the mods that it's a multi-accounter like Fed, I don't think it's a good idea to keep accusing new playing members that they're somebody else bad.

    We almost lost betrthanphil when he first started posting, we may have lost Flopped_Nuts after he got accused of being philiivey but hopefully not lose Monoxide if he really does live in Barrie and plays at Rama & Fallsview. While all the Rama and Brantford tournaments keep selling out, no forumers seemed to play live anymore until new members like Flopped_Nuts and Monoxide replied to my threads.
    Sorry about that, won't do it anymore.
  • BlondeFish wrote: »
    Unless there is some evidence from the mods that it's a multi-accounter like Fed, I don't think it's a good idea to keep accusing new playing members that they're somebody else bad.

    We almost lost betrthanphil when he first started posting, we may have lost Flopped_Nuts after he got accused of being philiivey but hopefully not lose Monoxide if he really does live in Barrie and plays at Rama & Fallsview. While all the Rama and Brantford tournaments keep selling out, no forumers seemed to play live anymore until new members like Flopped_Nuts and Monoxide replied to my threads.

    Fed?
  • GTA Poker wrote: »
    Fed?
    Busted. Multiple personality disorder along with OCD. :-[
  • BlondeFish wrote: »
    Busted. Multiple personality disorder along with OCD. :-[

    ezgame
  • haha, well im just me. I went to that $300 rama tourney and busted in 21st.

    ill probably play the rama tourney next week on 26th, a lot of value in them and decent structure for the 4 hours in the beginning, then it ramps up the gamble 5 hours+ by a lotttt. was drinking stellas the whole time im surprised no one saw me, long hair/beard/hoodie and UFC hat.
  • Monoxide wrote: »
    was drinking stellas the whole time im surprised no one saw me, long hair/beard/hoodie and UFC hat.
    Maybe because I was the only other forumer there and I was too busy looking at the cute waitress. ;) Were you wearing your hoodie during the tourney? Which of the last 3 tables were you playing in as it's possible we may have been at the same table at some point?
  • I had a bad beat hand the other day.

    Though Pokerstars doesnt have a bad beat jackpot.. at least I won the hand.

    Quad 10s over Aces full
  • BlondeFish wrote: »
    Maybe because I was the only other forumer there and I was too busy looking at the cute waitress. ;) Were you wearing your hoodie during the tourney? Which of the last 3 tables were you playing in as it's possible we may have been at the same table at some point?

    makes sense lol, dunno why i thought more people from here were playing it.

    i was in the farthest corner away from the door in the tournament half of the poker room. busted at that table.
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