GBH 2013 Schedule Out

Great Blue Heron Charity Casino - Poker Tournaments


Comparison of the structures between GBH & Brantford for those interested:

Brantford: $1090 (1000 +90) NLH Deepstack - 15k starting stack - 40 min blinds - Patience Factor: 30.34
GBH: $1100 (1000 + 100) - NLH Freeze Out - 10k starting stack - 45 min blinds - Patience Factor: 37.58


Brantford: $550 (500+50) NLH Deepstack - 15k starting stack - 30 min blinds - Patience Factor: 21.58
Brantford: $550 (500+50) NLH Deepstack - 15k starting stack - 40 min blinds - Patience Factor: 30.34
Brantford: $550 (400+50+100) NLH Deepstack $100 Bounty - 15k starting stack - 30 min blinds - Patience Factor: 21.58
GBH: $550 (500+50) NLH Freeze Out - 8k starting stack - 30 min blinds - Patience Factor: 18.91

Brantford: $230 (200+30) NLH Deepstack - 15k starting stack - 30 min blinds - Patience Factor: 18.43
Brantford: $200 (125+25+50) NLH Deepstack $50 Bounty - 15k starting stack - 20 min blinds - Patience Factor: 10.62
Brantford: $200 (125+25+50) NLH $50 Bounty - 10k starting stack - 20 min blinds - Patience Factor: 8.19
GBH:$220 (200+20) Man Overboard/Freeze Out - 8k starting stack - 30 min blinds - PF: 18.91
GBH:$220 (200+20) Deepstack Turbo Freeze Out - 8k starting stack - 20 min blinds - PF: 11.01

Comments

  • What is man overboard?
  • Hello guys

    The man overboard tournament is just a name given to this tournament in memory of the poker players that have passed away and were friends to the staff and players at the GBH. Not trying to develope a new style of tournament.

    A lot of you know the player that called out "Man overboard" each time a player was eliminated from the tournaments.
  • Any chance you can change the date on the January tournament? It's conflicting with the Fallsview $1000 tournament
  • Since I noticed Blondefish created a link to this page I thought I should add a disclaimer that the Brantford patience factors were calculated using last years starting stacks and structures as posted on olgpoker.com. However the 2013 rules and regs do not mention the starting stacks anywhere...I'm am unsure if all the different tournaments still have the same starting stacks as 2012.
  • Your Brantford numbers were close to the calculations I did when I started playing live again. I was thinking of posting all the up-to-date numbers before, but I think very few of the local casino players are in this forum. I haven't seen a single forumer I know at Brantford or Western Fair, and the only forumer I recognized at Casino Rama, Fallsview or Georgian Downs were the ones I phoned about going together.
    Gottaget wrote: »
    Since I noticed Blondefish created a link to this page I thought I should add a disclaimer that the Brantford patience factors were calculated using last years starting stacks and structures as posted on olgpoker.com. However the 2013 rules and regs do not mention the starting stacks anywhere...I'm am unsure if all the different tournaments still have the same starting stacks as 2012.
  • BlondeFish wrote: »
    , but I think very few of the local casino players are in this forum.

    I would bet that very few casino players are on ANY poker forum, never mind this just one.. and certainly not regularly..
  • Hmmm, no more $1100 tournaments and only two $550 in the 2014 schedule! :-\ Did SteveKerr, Popkorn, crazykoby & Peter D hog the prize money from the GBH tournament poker community? ;)

    The King of the Cards needs to have more than five places paid, so that more of the 50 "VIPs" that have to make a special trip during winter will walk away with some Christmas cash instead of a wasted day.

    The tourneys of Rama & OLG Slots are more +EV than GBH's 9.1%-raked tourneys, but GBH is still much better than the -EV tourneys at Seneca/Vegas. I guess I'll be making good use of my new winter tires for the almost 3 1/2 drive on January 15, February 5 & 19, March 5 & 19, and April.
    Gottaget wrote: »
    GBH: $1100 (1000 + 100) - NLH Freeze Out - 10k starting stack - 45 min blinds - Patience Factor: 37.58
    :
    GBH: $550 (500+50) NLH Freeze Out - 8k starting stack - 30 min blinds - Patience Factor: 18.91
  • I think there is 3 $550's
    Winter, Summer, and Spring classics

    Also starting stacks have have changed

    $220 = 8k chips
    Most $330 = 12k chips
    $550 = 15k chips
  • What time these tournaments start???
  • I believe 10:30am
  • In terms of patience factor calculations, would dealer speed affect it, because you will definitely get more hands/hour playing at Brantford, so a 40minute structure there is actually better than a 45 minute structure at gbh
  • SteveKerr wrote: »
    I believe 10:30am

    I wish it was later, so I could play these tournaments.
  • Is this because GBH dealers are even slower than Brantford dealers? Patience Factor is just a general measurement of how much play you get as there are many factors that could affect it, but you don't want to pay for a high buy-in tourney that doesn't have a high Patience Factor.

    The more hands per hour, the better for a good player, so that is the advantage of tournaments at Casino Rama (auto shufflers) and the electronic tourneys at Woodbine, Mohawk & Western Fair. :cool:
    Popkorn wrote: »
    In terms of patience factor calculations, would dealer speed affect it, because you will definitely get more hands/hour playing at Brantford, so a 40minute structure there is actually better than a 45 minute structure at gbh
  • BlondeFish wrote: »
    Is this because GBH dealers are even slower than Brantford dealers?

    On average, Brantford will deal 25-30% more hands than GBH dealers. The is based on dealer work ethic (laziness), competence level (a lot of times they are not aware of what is happening at the table), and knowledge of the rules (causes for many delays if they are always calling for a supervisor ruling).

    Biggest issue I find is that GBH has never trained their poker dealers on tournament rules. Last tournament I played their, the dealer stopped the game for 5 minutes to ask a supervisor what he should do with a player that just got moved to their table but is sitting between the small blind and the button. This is an obvious problem with competence, since the same rules apply in a cash game where they cannot be dealt in, unless they have option to buy the button, which they should know does not apply since this is a tournament.
  • I was about to buy for the GBH Deep Stack this week, but it's sold out! :'( Does anybody know when it sold out, or if anybody wants to sell their seat?
  • Why are they capped at 90 now as well?
  • Hasn't GBH been capped at 90 players for over a year? Rama has a limit of 80 tournament seats, while Brantford can have up to 100.
    actyper wrote: »
    Why are they capped at 90 now as well?
  • actyper wrote: »
    Why are they capped at 90 now as well?

    They used to have 12 tables, but they removed 2 to have extra baccarat tables. And they always leave 1 table for cash games for the degens that play overnight.
  • Yeah I didn't play at all there in 2013, last time I went it was 110 cap. Going the wrong way ever since they refused to listen to players regarding their island tourney disaster!
  • actyper wrote: »
    Yeah I didn't play at all there in 2013, last time I went it was 110 cap. Going the wrong way ever since they refused to listen to players regarding their island tourney disaster!

    What happened there?
  • Was that the "Island Poker Series" in which forum alumni (and World Champion) Vekked was one of only three players who cashed? What were the suggestions that GBH didn't listen to?

    I'm hoping that I won't be the only one suggesting improvements to the weird King of the Cards "VIP" structure.
    actyper wrote: »
    Going the wrong way ever since they refused to listen to players regarding their island tourney disaster!
  • BlondeFish wrote: »
    I was about to buy for the GBH Deep Stack this week, but it's sold out! :'( Does anybody know when it sold out, or if anybody wants to sell their seat?

    It was sold out at least as early as Sunday morning, when I tried to get in!
  • even though i had a nice little score yesterday at GBH finishing 2nd in their first tournament of 2014.

    I have noticed that the tournament staff have remarkably have gotten 100% worse from 2013.

    examples

    - 80% of the dealers I had, could even cut out chips and count them correctly

    - once 11 handed (10 gets paid) I asked the women TD are we going to go hand for hand. Her response was "what is that?" I explained and she said "we don't do that here and any player is aloud to call clock on another player for taking to long. I then asked so I can call clock on every player at the other table, she said "no" and then I said that is my point. I then instructed my table that we are 5 handed and will play more hands especially with the short stack at the other table tanking every hand, that we should sit back and take our time. This prompted the TD to find someone that supposedly knew and yes we started hand for hand.

    The regular TD (John ???) was not running the tournament like he usually does, but was running one of the pits. Not sure what is going on with that, as he was a pretty good TD their.
  • SteveKerr wrote: »
    I have noticed that the tournament staff have remarkably have gotten 100% worse from 2013.
    I would have to agree that poker dealers at GBH have the highest error rate since I went back to playing live. On some shifts, I have to watch the dealer more for the next error instead of watching the players! There was a funny incident in a table with Popkorn where a long-time dealer could not count the all-in stack so I quickly said what the total was, but it took the dealer another five minutes to count the same number I got.

    In the $550 Deep Stack, in which at least three forumers made the final two tables, some players kept complaining that there was too much play! :rolleyes: As a result, all future Deep Stacks will be 1/3 shorter at only 30-minute blinds. :(
    The regular TD (John ???) was not running the tournament like he usually does, but was running one of the pits. Not sure what is going on with that, as he was a pretty good TD their.
    It appears that John has passed the torch to Jeff, who is now in charge of poker. I signed up for the email list being circulated in the last tournament (sold-out as usual), so it's good that there will be regular poker communication.

    Unlike the terrible Fallsview TD, players could easily chat with Jeff without fear of being thrown out of the casino! :p
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