Folded KK preflop, right play ?

djgolfcandjgolfcan
in Brags, Beats & Variance
PokerStars Hand #87997595130: Tournament #652020025, $100+$9 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XII (300/600) - 2012/10/21 11:21:36 ET
Table '652020025 113' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: pinkcat278 (12201 in chips)
Seat 2: Kwetters (8059 in chips)
Seat 3: liomaceisa (14497 in chips)
Seat 4: djgolfcan (42192 in chips)
Seat 5: plasticard (21389 in chips)
Seat 6: barcs69 (10720 in chips)
Seat 7: Mikleler (25667 in chips)
Seat 8: sooner118 (35946 in chips)
Seat 9: haldi80 (15300 in chips)
pinkcat278: posts the ante 60
Kwetters: posts the ante 60
liomaceisa: posts the ante 60
djgolfcan: posts the ante 60
plasticard: posts the ante 60
barcs69: posts the ante 60
Mikleler: posts the ante 60
sooner118: posts the ante 60
haldi80: posts the ante 60
Kwetters: posts small blind 300
liomaceisa: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to djgolfcan [Kc Kh]
djgolfcan: raises 600 to 1200
plasticard: folds
barcs69: folds
Mikleler: folds
sooner118: raises 1800 to 3000
haldi80: folds
pinkcat278: folds
Kwetters: folds
liomaceisa: folds
djgolfcan: raises 4800 to 7800
sooner118: raises 10200 to 18000
djgolfcan said, "you have to be kidding me"
sooner118 said, "i will show"
djgolfcan said, "what do you have ?"
sooner118 said, "guess what"
djgolfcan said, "QQ?"
sooner118 said, "no"
djgolfcan said, "I cant believe I'm folding these"
sooner118 said, "see for yourself"
djgolfcan said, "show"
djgolfcan: folds
Uncalled bet (10200) returned to sooner118
sooner118 collected 17040 from pot
sooner118: shows [Ah Ac] (a pair of Aces)

Comments

  • UnknownUnknown
    lmao
  • Wetts1012Wetts1012
    no.
  • betrthanphilbetrthanphil
    thats how id play it, chat included.......

    wp

    nf
  • jdAA88jdAA88
    thats sickkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk lol wouldnt ever fold tho
  • PAMPAM
    Ya never folding. You looked like a genius this time around though.
  • trigstrigs
    I'm not folding here. Nh though getting him to show.
  • djgolfcandjgolfcan
    Its one of only two times I have folded KK preflop, and both times I was right. I had played at the same table with villain for over an hour. I had only shown down strong hands the entire time, his 4-bet range was so small and we were deep stacked.
  • betrthanphilbetrthanphil
    djgolfcan wrote: »
    Its one of only two times I have folded KK preflop, and both times I was right. I had played at the same table with villain for over an hour. I had only shown down strong hands the entire time, his 5-bet range was so small and we were deep stacked.

    FYP

    and why 4b then?
  • ram_siva1ram_siva1
    loled when i read the title
  • djgolfcandjgolfcan
    betrthanphil wrote: »
    FYP

    and why 4b then?

    That's a good point. If I think I am ahead of his 3-bet range, why am I trying to get him to fold ? Its funny, I probably call a shove in that spot, as it doesn't look as strong as the 5-bet.
  • Wetts1012Wetts1012
    This is mathematically pretty easy.

    You stated you have a super soulread on this guy so:

    Define 3b range
    Define 5b range
    Define 5b shove range.

    EZ game.
  • djgolfcandjgolfcan
    Wetts1012 wrote: »
    This is mathematically pretty easy.

    You stated you have a super soulread on this guy so:

    Define 3b range
    Define 5b range
    Define 5b shove range.

    EZ game.

    3b range - 99+ AQ+
    5b range - QQ+
    5b shove range - JJ+ AK
  • djgolfcandjgolfcan
    Gotta go with your reads. This was a couple of hands later. Shoves like this are almost always semi-bluffs. Overcards show up here more often than a big pair.

    PokerStars Hand #87997905144: Tournament #652020025, $100+$9 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIII (400/800) - 2012/10/21 11:27:25 ET
    Table '652020025 113' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
    Seat 1: pinkcat278 (11761 in chips)
    Seat 2: Kwetters (9239 in chips)
    Seat 3: liomaceisa (16517 in chips)
    Seat 4: djgolfcan (32952 in chips)
    Seat 5: plasticard (19709 in chips)
    Seat 6: barcs69 (14560 in chips)
    Seat 7: Mikleler (24027 in chips)
    Seat 8: sooner118 (42346 in chips)
    Seat 9: haldi80 (14860 in chips)
    pinkcat278: posts the ante 80
    Kwetters: posts the ante 80
    liomaceisa: posts the ante 80
    djgolfcan: posts the ante 80
    plasticard: posts the ante 80
    barcs69: posts the ante 80
    Mikleler: posts the ante 80
    sooner118: posts the ante 80
    haldi80: posts the ante 80
    sooner118: posts small blind 400
    haldi80: posts big blind 800
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to djgolfcan [Th Td]
    pinkcat278: folds
    Kwetters: folds
    liomaceisa: folds
    djgolfcan: raises 800 to 1600
    plasticard: calls 1600
    barcs69: folds
    Mikleler: raises 2800 to 4400
    sooner118: folds
    haldi80: folds
    djgolfcan: calls 2800
    plasticard: calls 2800
    *** FLOP *** [3c 5h 6s]
    djgolfcan: checks
    plasticard: checks
    Mikleler: bets 19547 and is all-in
    djgolfcan: calls 19547
    plasticard: folds [2s 2c]
    sooner118 said, "damn"
    *** TURN *** [3c 5h 6s] [Qc]
    *** RIVER *** [3c 5h 6s Qc] [Ah]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    djgolfcan: shows [Th Td] (a pair of Tens)
    Mikleler: shows [7s 7d] (a pair of Sevens)
    djgolfcan collected 54214 from pot
    Mikleler finished the tournament in 373rd place
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