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Quizish, ur next move?
Villain is a random, i think this is a 15 180 man both hands are the same orbit, and the first hand is our only read....what to do on turn?
$15/$30 No Limit Holdem
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9 Players
Stacks:
UTG LilBigKahuna ($1,470) 49bb
UTG+1 Poka_Face222 ($1,630) 54bb
MP1 Lary18th ($1,797) 60bb
MP2 BigBadBluff4 ($1,470) 49bb
MP3 Hero ($1,500) 50bb
CO matsaflokos ($1,400) 47bb
BTN Lemmy ace ($1,223) 41bb
SB ChippyBrady ($1,500) 50bb
BB secret77777 ($1,510) 50bb
Pre-Flop: ($45, 9 players) Hero is MP3 :jh :kc
4 folds, Hero raises to $82, 1 fold, Lemmy ace calls $82, 2 folds
Flop: :5h :9h :2h ($209, 2 players)
hero bets $105, Lemmy ace folds
Final Pot: $209
hero wins $314 (net +$127)
Lemmy ace lost $82
$15/$30 No Limit Holdem
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9 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG BigBadBluff4 ($1,515) 51bb
UTG+1 Hero ($1,627) 54bb
MP1 matsaflokos ($1,400) 47bb
MP2 Lemmy ace ($1,141) 38bb
MP3 ChippyBrady ($1,485) 50bb
CO secret77777 ($1,465) 49bb
BTN LilBigKahuna ($1,425) 48bb
SB Poka_Face222 ($1,600) 53bb
BB Lary18th ($1,842) 61bb
Pre-Flop: ($45, 9 players) Hero is UTG+1 :ac :jc
1 fold, Hero raises to $82, 1 fold, Lemmy ace calls $82, 5 folds
Flop: :3s :6d :9h ($209, 2 players)
Hero bets $105, Lemmy ace calls $105
Turn: :8c ($419, 2 players)
Hero checks, Lemmy ace bets $300, Hero???
$15/$30 No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
9 Players
Stacks:
UTG LilBigKahuna ($1,470) 49bb
UTG+1 Poka_Face222 ($1,630) 54bb
MP1 Lary18th ($1,797) 60bb
MP2 BigBadBluff4 ($1,470) 49bb
MP3 Hero ($1,500) 50bb
CO matsaflokos ($1,400) 47bb
BTN Lemmy ace ($1,223) 41bb
SB ChippyBrady ($1,500) 50bb
BB secret77777 ($1,510) 50bb
Pre-Flop: ($45, 9 players) Hero is MP3 :jh :kc
4 folds, Hero raises to $82, 1 fold, Lemmy ace calls $82, 2 folds
Flop: :5h :9h :2h ($209, 2 players)
hero bets $105, Lemmy ace folds
Final Pot: $209
hero wins $314 (net +$127)
Lemmy ace lost $82
$15/$30 No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
9 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG BigBadBluff4 ($1,515) 51bb
UTG+1 Hero ($1,627) 54bb
MP1 matsaflokos ($1,400) 47bb
MP2 Lemmy ace ($1,141) 38bb
MP3 ChippyBrady ($1,485) 50bb
CO secret77777 ($1,465) 49bb
BTN LilBigKahuna ($1,425) 48bb
SB Poka_Face222 ($1,600) 53bb
BB Lary18th ($1,842) 61bb
Pre-Flop: ($45, 9 players) Hero is UTG+1 :ac :jc
1 fold, Hero raises to $82, 1 fold, Lemmy ace calls $82, 5 folds
Flop: :3s :6d :9h ($209, 2 players)
Hero bets $105, Lemmy ace calls $105
Turn: :8c ($419, 2 players)
Hero checks, Lemmy ace bets $300, Hero???
Comments
personally, i'd probably give him credit here. you're only beating a bluff and he's pretty much committed his whole stack with his turn bet since he's got only 650 behind.
what hands is he calling preflop and flop and betting turn with? not sure AJs covers that range.
In this hand we have a little more information at our disposal I think then people would use. Firstly, I haven't really checked up on this player, but he's less likely to be a reg or a winning player because I don't know him. His flat pre in the first hand doesn't tell us too much, although we do expect a lot of broadways and pairs and the occasional trap.
His fold to our lead give us a little info though. Its not likely he folded a pair + a heart, and rarely even any pair for that matter. There's also many low-mid suited connectors that would peel this flop (especially with a heart). So it's looking like villain flatted pre with broadway (no heart), and folded to our lead.
A couple hands latter we have the same scenario, but this time villain calls our lead. The turn brings another mid/low card. I think its reasonable that such a player would raise a lot of paired hands in this fop spot, and I think given the history and our actions that he is likely to float much of his broadway, while not having many made hands or hands that beat us like aq and ak (jam pre etc).
I check the turn, and he bets committed but my read leaves me to believe his range is ultra weak because for each broadway in his range he has 16 combination of that set that we beat. This can be upwards to 100+ hands, that we beat, vs vs the # of hands that he actually legitimately slow-played pre and on the flop with.
So really I chose to check shove here for value, knowing that I also have some fold equity (there is always fold equity), and for the times we are behind we often still have 6 outs to a better hand on the river.
I think this hand is an example of how weak a persons range can be when they are playing a lot or all of there broadways.
Villain called with JTo
what you think of preflop, both hero and villain?
1st one, c bet and tid is probably std ... not alot of hands hit that flop
second one is alright for hero, horrible for villian
he should never be flatting jto there really