Friendly Home Game - What's Your Move?
I was at a friendly home game on the weekend and this situation came up. Just wanted to get some thoughts on how the hand played out.
The host of the game usually will play when the game is short handed. He often will show his cards when he has a good hand as more of a friendly gesture as he doesn't like to stack players and is usually happy winning the existing pot.
We are six handed and player in middle position raises to $20. It is folded around to the host who makes it $80. This is usually a strong sign that he has a monster and the other player should fold. MP player ponders and decides to make the call. Flop comes KJ7. Host has about $200 behind and he bets $100, leaving him around $100.
MP player is thinking whether to call when host offers to show MP one of his cards (this is allowed heads up at this home game). MP says sure and host turns over both cards and shows pocket aces. MP tells him he only wanted to see one card, not both. Host tells MP he is behind and he should just fold. Then host says if he wants to call, they can check it down. MP says he doesn't want to check it down if he calls.
MP doesn't instant muck but starts to consider his options. After a couple minutes MP announces he is all-in. This catches the host off guard. Some of the other players, not in the hand, say this is bad etiquette to push all-in given the host has already shown his cards.
Host eventually folds and asks to see MP's cards. MP shows a single J.
Thoughts?
The host of the game usually will play when the game is short handed. He often will show his cards when he has a good hand as more of a friendly gesture as he doesn't like to stack players and is usually happy winning the existing pot.
We are six handed and player in middle position raises to $20. It is folded around to the host who makes it $80. This is usually a strong sign that he has a monster and the other player should fold. MP player ponders and decides to make the call. Flop comes KJ7. Host has about $200 behind and he bets $100, leaving him around $100.
MP player is thinking whether to call when host offers to show MP one of his cards (this is allowed heads up at this home game). MP says sure and host turns over both cards and shows pocket aces. MP tells him he only wanted to see one card, not both. Host tells MP he is behind and he should just fold. Then host says if he wants to call, they can check it down. MP says he doesn't want to check it down if he calls.
MP doesn't instant muck but starts to consider his options. After a couple minutes MP announces he is all-in. This catches the host off guard. Some of the other players, not in the hand, say this is bad etiquette to push all-in given the host has already shown his cards.
Host eventually folds and asks to see MP's cards. MP shows a single J.
Thoughts?
Comments
The host clearly doesn't care about winning / playing good poker, and he's put in 180/280 dollars? What's the difference between the other $100 or no?
Mark
P.S. Just showing the J is gold.
P.P.S. - non host guy clearly had AA beat and wanted to win the most money he could at the game. You know, the poker cash game? Where the goal is to win moneY?
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+1
lol, already? I thought you quit...;)
Host is an ass lol. MP might have two pair or set, prob does, however, it's the old I know that you know that I have...could be the sickest level ever.
Yes, showing just the jack is GOLD!!!!!!
the MP guy probably had KJ, still have enough outs to call ex $100.
This is toooooo friendly, don't remember last time I played Friendly poker.
where is the game at?
He is actually angle shooting to get players to fold when then have the correct odds to draw. He also does not play very well.
How is flatting with JJ better
Flatting with jacks vs KJ in this spot are both bad but I don't think they're equally bad. I can see people flatting jacks to try seeing a non-overcard flop before getting it in. I don't know what kind of flop you're looking for with KJ.
Fwiw, from the description of the host, I'd fold jacks almost always here.