This is why today's youth are unprepared for the real world ...
I don't do my job, I get a zero (FIRED)
Edmonton teacher who handed out zeroes may lose job | CTVNews
Edmonton teacher who handed out zeroes may lose job | CTVNews
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Even though there is no physical mark - effort and professionalism is part of the consideration that goes into evaluation - it shows up in zeros and also awards for excellence.
When grading work it becomes very difficult to assign grades of less than 40% and they become fairly meaningless and arbitrary because so little of the work is completed properly, it is difficult to assess a value to any of it.
Reading between the lines it sounds like the policy is that it is the teacher's job to ensure all the work is submitted and that the recommendation for dismissal is based on this lack of effort, not that he assigned zero grades. It is probably just an extension of some sort of retention (of students) policy.
it's worse than what you might think though. we are not even allowed to penalize for lateness at all no matter the circumstance. literally, a student could hand in every assignment for the entire year on the last day of class and we'd have to mark it completely with no possible deductions.
i understand the argument that the other side is making - that just giving out zeroes does not help the student learn nor does it reflect their actual knowledge of the subject - and i agree. however, there needs to be some sort of limit of responsibility on behalf of the student. it should be understood that their work needs to be completely in a timely fashion. everything outside of school works that way, so why would you not teach it to students before they get pushed out there?
i've always liked the idea of rolling due dates ever since i had a few profs use them in university. pretty much, you have an entire week to hand in an assignment. it makes it almost impossible to not hand it in. after the week though - zero. kids gotta learn how the world works.
The no late penalty thing in Ontario schools always boggled my mind too.
You have until the week of September 10th - 14th to figure it out.
Mark
rolling due date (or sliding due date) is when the students have an entire week to hand in the assignment. for example, students are given an assignment on Sept. 10th and they have two weeks to work on it. the rolling due date is then Sept. 24th-Sept. 28th. after the week, if the assignment is not handed in, it's a zero. this obviously doesn't solve every problem with zeroes and late penalties but it does help.
some teachers like to give mark or percentage deductions per day or per week an assignment is late. we're not allowed to do that either though anymore. you can also combine this practice with rolling due dates, however, i don't agree with the deduction of marks in this way.
btw, this is a big debate right now in our education system with teachers on both sides of the fence.
i've used rolling due dates before with great success. with my current school it doesn't really fit (students just work at their own pace individually).
another good thing about rolling due dates is that it makes it easier for the teacher to mark. instead of getting 30 assignments on one day, they kind of slowly get brought in so you can pace yourself a bit. always helpful if you have a lot of classes/students.
heh, yeah it might require better organization. i'm pretty OCD when it comes to keeping my work crap in order. i'm actually bothered when the books on my desk are stacked proportional to size and are straight. funny, because my bedroom is usually a mess lol.
So once again, no responsibility on the student.
I'm not arguing for any late policy - as I said before at college in our program there is zero tolerance for lates, you either hand it in on time or don't bother. I think a rolling date policy is helpful in this regard. It doesn't fundamentally affect our late policy, but it is a relaxation of the rules in a student's mind which will create less conflict. I'll see how it goes. If it turns out 5 students come in 10 minutes late because they are out in the hallway copying out an assignment, well things will have to be adjusted.
I teach probably the only course in our program that has a late deduction policy and that is only because it is a major project course that takes 8 months to complete and some projects are more difficult than others so some flexibility in the due date is allowed.
what do you wanna do with your life?!?!?!???!
You need this pic tho
1) hated the teacher
2) sucked at it lol
I should have gotten a 0 , I have no idea how I pulled off an 8... I went to class but I just sat there, didnt do tests, or home work lol
swear on my life this is true btw
wonder if i got an 8 because he wasnt allowed to give me a 0?
that's baller as hell lol
Brownnoser... Only the slackers player euchre... With us it was bridge and/or hearts 1st class to noon, then the pool hall till dinner... That was my Ryerson education.... made me what I am today.. Wait a minute now...
I had Accounting right after lunch, same time as some of my buddies had their lunch. So I took the booklet, did all the assignments in about a month, and spent the rest of the semester playing basketball in the gym.
No. No, they're not. The vast majority of youth today have an attitude of "the world owes me so I'm not going to work for it." I will say there are a LOT of really good kids out there, which includes several CPF children by all accounts, and that's awesome. Unfortunately, there are even more that are overall just a bunch of lazy ass slackers with no work ethic and no respect.
Fuck I sound old.
Hell, no . . . they have no concept of finances. Growing up with parents who survived the Great Depression, as well as World War Two, the basic concepts of money management were drilled into my head at a very early age. I may not have always followed those lessons, but I am back on track now. Today's children have no clue about this sort of thing, and I find it almost criminal that it is not focused on more stringently in our schools. My daughter is learning, and might actually be prepared by the time she heads off to post-secondary life in a couple years.