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darbday, straight up help please

couple weird spots tonight, i need your input please

#1

PokerStars Hand #84295398115: Tournament #610010776, $5.00+$0.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XII (500/1000) - 2012/08/04 21:37:58 ET
Table '610010776 10' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Wiel 24 (13523 in chips)
Seat 2: izsi7 (30252 in chips)
Seat 3: gonzas315 (40698 in chips)
Seat 4: smokerock247 (71653 in chips)
Seat 6: teczinho (13058 in chips)
Wiel 24: posts the ante 100
izsi7: posts the ante 100
gonzas315: posts the ante 100
smokerock247: posts the ante 100
teczinho: posts the ante 100
teczinho: posts small blind 500
Wiel 24: posts big blind 1000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to smokerock247 [Ad 5h]
izsi7: folds
gonzas315: folds
smokerock247: raises 1000 to 2000
teczinho: raises 10958 to 12958 and is all-in
Wiel 24: raises 465 to 13423 and is all-in
smokerock247: ???

#2

PokerStars Hand #84295254323: Tournament #610010776, $5.00+$0.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XI (400/800) - 2012/08/04 21:32:12 ET
Table '610010776 10' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Wiel 24 (13198 in chips)
Seat 2: izsi7 (35152 in chips)
Seat 3: gonzas315 (40654 in chips)
Seat 4: smokerock247 (56659 in chips)
Seat 5: Arquerito (10588 in chips)
Seat 6: teczinho (12933 in chips)
Wiel 24: posts the ante 75
izsi7: posts the ante 75
gonzas315: posts the ante 75
smokerock247: posts the ante 75
Arquerito: posts the ante 75
teczinho: posts the ante 75
smokerock247: posts small blind 400
Arquerito: posts big blind 800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to smokerock247 [6h 7h]
teczinho: folds
Wiel 24: folds
izsi7: folds
gonzas315: folds
smokerock247: raises 55784 to 56584 and is all-in


i just wanna know if these are ok


#1- im not sure if i was getting the right price / pot odds?? im a fish?

#2- im straight up not sure

im sure there will be a couple more...

Comments

  • Darb says ask the poker community and read all their answers carefully!!!


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  • not sure i follow...
  • costanza wrote: »
    not sure i follow...
    they are batman pancakes.
  • jajaja

    LOOLLLL
  • I'd say fold and shove respectively. It would really suck if they have you dominated in two different ways. Spot two seems pretty standrad to me

    (spot one I'm calling ten bigs and not a BB more)
  • Hand#1 is a fold for sure, shove and a call after the big stack raises preflop, you are def behind. Don't mind the raise though, only better hands are calling or shoving on you.

    Hand# 2 - blind vs blind and BB is short, he's not calling unless he has a monster.
  • djgolfcan wrote: »

    Hand# 2 - blind vs blind and BB is short, he's not calling unless he has a monster.

    What is you definition of "monster" here?

    Fold / shove, looks fine as played.
  • Wetts1012 wrote: »
    What is you definition of "monster" here?

    Fold / shove, looks fine as played.

    Monster may be the wrong word. Any Ace should call, being that he is that short.
  • hand #1-

    What do u guys mean im way behind, am i not priced in against those guys?

    i put 2K in + antes makes this a very close pot odds call , is it not?

    fwiw - i called (lol) and flopped the joint, so i felt like a genius , but alas, i could be way off
  • its like 10k to win 30k (aboot).

    I think you're lucky to have 25% equity here.

    V1 isnt shoving ATC (maybe 87ss+, QJ+, all pairs aces K9+) If we assume V2 has the exact same range (but he doesnt, it's tighter) then 25% is aggressive.
  • wow first hand is an unreal easy fold lol and number 2 meh shove seems fine. A5os against 2 all ins for 13bbs.....really why is this here. wouldnt start calling all ins when I know im way behind until like <10bbs when ive already committed 2bbs. Thats if i have >30bbs
  • wow first hand is an unreal easy fold lol and number 2 meh shove seems fine. A5os against 2 all ins for 13bbs.....really why is this here. wouldnt start calling all ins when I know im way behind until like <10bbs when ive already committed 2bbs. Thats if i have >30bbs

    K thanx... At the time it felt close.. a5 is one of those weird hands that always gets me...

    I know it's like "zomg smoke ur always Out kicked" but the a5 equity pwns other naked aces (obv not big aces)

    Another thing that crossed my mind while I tanked and tried to do math but gave up on 15 secs in was how I'm doing against their range

    If first villian is shoving semi wide to my open, let's say K9s+ 22-TT , and bb re shoves tighter let's say AQo+ and jj+ then how do we stand

    I was fumbling with my stove and fucked up then said fuck
    It I call... I do it now and see I'm doing horribly

    These are the type of spots I should be snap mucking but I'm so obsessed with math all my (and general) reads go out the window

    [x] fish , confirmed

    Learning tho, I'll be back to my old game in no time
  • wait......

    maybe i am on to something......

    HoldemResources.net: Beta ICM Nash Calculator
  • costanza wrote: »
    wait......

    maybe i am on to something......

    HoldemResources.net: Beta ICM Nash Calculator

    Hand 1-Do I overcall with A5o?

    Use Nash like this: put your stack in the BB, and Wiel 24 in the button spot. Then look at what hands you would overcall, if the the button shoved and the sb called.
    It won't be exactly right but its a decent guide.

    Hand 2-Thats simply a nash question, no point to homework if you don't do it yourself.
  • did you adjust the ranges ?
  • darbday wrote: »
    did you adjust the ranges ?

    :-[
  • you keeping the ranges you adjusted a secret?
  • what?

    did i fuck up?
  • costanza wrote: »

    If first villian is shoving semi wide to my open, let's say K9s+ 22-TT , and bb re shoves tighter let's say AQo+ and jj+ then how do we stand

    Im not a HRes expert so Im not sure what you did wrong. But assuming the ranges above you get this:

    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 18.331% 16.51% 01.83% 2173383127 240359786.83 { Ad5c }
    Hand 1: 27.079% 25.11% 01.97% 3305787424 259861928.83 { AA-22, A2s+, K9s+, A2o+, KTo+ }
    Hand 2: 54.590% 53.17% 01.42% 7001321197 186749460.33 { JJ+, AQs+, AQo+ }

    #cornholed
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