FT 5bb shove?

reibsreibs
in MTT Strategy
[SIZE=-1]so just for a bit of fun, this was the cooler i took at the FT last night....
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*********** # 271 **************
PokerStars Hand #83339727568: Tournament #582828709, $2.00+$0.20 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXXIV (10000/20000) - 2012/07/15 3:18:42 ET
Table '582828709 38' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: blondepoly (259908 in chips)
Seat 2: germet777 (1139500 in chips)
Seat 3: DeMatos (313068 in chips)
Seat 4: /7oKepp (285830 in chips)
Seat 5: leroy1304 (241987 in chips)
Seat 6: REEBS77 (596556 in chips)
Seat 7: xiudz (485158 in chips)
Seat 8: 72donku (1069993 in chips)
blondepoly: posts the ante 2500
germet777: posts the ante 2500
DeMatos: posts the ante 2500
/7oKepp: posts the ante 2500
leroy1304: posts the ante 2500
REEBS77: posts the ante 2500
xiudz: posts the ante 2500
72donku: posts the ante 2500
blondepoly: posts small blind 10000
germet777: posts big blind 20000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to REEBS77 [7c Qc]
DeMatos: folds
/7oKepp: folds
leroy1304: folds
REEBS77: raises 20000 to 40000
xiudz: calls 40000
72donku: folds
blondepoly: folds
germet777: calls 20000
*** FLOP *** [8c 7d 7h]
germet777: checks
REEBS77: bets 49989
xiudz: calls 49989
germet777: calls 49989
*** TURN *** [8c 7d 7h] [9c]
germet777: checks
REEBS77: bets 111111
xiudz: raises 268889 to 380000
germet777: folds
REEBS77: raises 124067 to 504067 and is all-in
xiudz: calls 12669 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (111398) returned to REEBS77
*** RIVER *** [8c 7d 7h 9c] [6s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
REEBS77: shows [7c Qc] (three of a kind, Sevens)
xiudz: shows [As 7s] (three of a kind, Sevens - Ace kicker)
xiudz collected 1085305 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1085305 | Rake 0
Board [8c 7d 7h 9c 6s]
Seat 1: blondepoly (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: germet777 (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 3: DeMatos folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: /7oKepp folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: leroy1304 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: REEBS77 showed [7c Qc] and lost with three of a kind, Sevens
Seat 7: xiudz showed [As 7s] and won (1085305) with three of a kind, Sevens
Seat 8: 72donku (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

but the one yoda was refering to in the OMG thread is this one....

[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]*********** # 273 **************
PokerStars Hand #83339767104: Tournament #582828709, $2.00+$0.20 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXXIV (10000/20000) - 2012/07/15 3:21:02 ET
Table '582828709 38' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: blondepoly (244908 in chips)
Seat 2: germet777 (1084511 in chips)
Seat 3: DeMatos (288068 in chips)
Seat 4: /7oKepp (280830 in chips)
Seat 5: leroy1304 (236987 in chips)
Seat 6: REEBS77 (108898 in chips)
Seat 7: xiudz (1082805 in chips)
Seat 8: 72donku (1064993 in chips)
blondepoly: posts the ante 2500
germet777: posts the ante 2500
DeMatos: posts the ante 2500
/7oKepp: posts the ante 2500
leroy1304: posts the ante 2500
REEBS77: posts the ante 2500
xiudz: posts the ante 2500
72donku: posts the ante 2500
DeMatos: posts small blind 10000
/7oKepp: posts big blind 20000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to REEBS77 [7h 6d]
leroy1304: folds
REEBS77: raises 86398 to 106398 and is all-in
xiudz: folds
72donku: folds
blondepoly: folds
germet777: calls 106398
DeMatos: folds
/7oKepp: folds
*** FLOP *** [3c 9d Td]
*** TURN *** [3c 9d Td] [4h]
*** RIVER *** [3c 9d Td 4h] [Jh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
REEBS77: shows [7h 6d] (high card Jack)
germet777: shows [As Ks] (high card Ace)
germet777 collected 262796 from pot
REEBS77 finished the tournament in 8th place and received $80.86.
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 262796 | Rake 0
Board [3c 9d Td 4h Jh]
Seat 1: blondepoly folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: germet777 (button) showed [As Ks] and won (262796) with high card Ace
Seat 3: DeMatos (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: /7oKepp (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: leroy1304 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: REEBS77 showed [7h 6d] and lost with high card Jack
Seat 7: xiudz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: 72donku folded before Flop (didn't bet)[/SIZE]

Im playing right now, so cant type much, but I was definitely tilted from that hand.... just kinda mindlessly shoved here.... thoughts?

Comments

  • jdAA88jdAA88
    1st hand - lame cooler
    2nd hand - foldski
  • UnknownUnknown
    we need someone like costanza to type this into nash and post the link!
  • UnknownUnknown
    darbday wrote: »
    we need someone like costanza to type this into nash and post the link!
    bump!
  • UnknownUnknown
    i did it tho
  • UnknownUnknown
    costanza wrote: »
    i did it tho
    post the link results :-\
  • reibsreibs
    HoldemResources.net: Beta ICM Nash Calculator
  • UnknownUnknown
    reibs wrote: »
    for the lulz

    HoldemResources.net: Beta ICM Nash Calculator

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  • UnknownUnknown
    ya so this wasn't so dramatic but I think tighter than some are used to. If there are other shorties I think it becomes a lot bigger mistake. We can prob shove a lil wider than nash like 25% but adding mostly suited hands as you can see if you tighten up the bb and sb

    also notice a lot of overcalling range are AA and KK only which is too tight for most.
  • UnknownUnknown
    darbday wrote: »
    ya so this wasn't so dramatic but I think tighter than some are used to. If there are other shorties I think it becomes a lot bigger mistake. We can prob shove a lil wider than nash like 25% but adding mostly suited hands as you can see if you tighten up the bb and sb

    also notice a lot of overcalling range are AA and KK only which is too tight for most.

    why were my numbers so different tho

    ah, the structure reebs put in
  • UnknownUnknown
    costanza wrote: »
    why were my numbers so different tho
    well we'll never know now will we? maybe reibs can post the screen shot and we can compare.

    What did you put for payouts?
  • UnknownUnknown
    costanza wrote: »
    why were my numbers so different tho

    ah, the structure reebs put in
    so then the one you did and this one are the difference between chip ev and icm

    ChipEV
    Attachment not found.

    ICM
    Attachment not found.

    So because we are shoving 67o these are potentially our mistakes, I realize you are possibly folding some of these hands, but pretty much all of them play better than 67o. So here is ur Jodabux mistakes:

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    Thats why i think this hand was important, it gets way worse in a 180 man ft though, i guess cause there's more shorties and less chips.
  • UnknownUnknown
    darbday wrote: »
    so then the one you did and this one are the difference between chip ev and icm

    right!

    which one should we use here tho

    chip ev range is way wider obv
  • UnknownUnknown
    costanza wrote: »
    right!

    which one should we use here tho

    chip ev range is way wider obv
    is the final table Chip Ev or ICM?
  • UnknownUnknown
    icm tho
  • UnknownUnknown
    costanza wrote: »
    icm tho
    then we should use the icm version of the nash printout, its the correct one.
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