Bristol Street Classic XII - Results
Better late than never! 
After the smoke cleared, a new champion bested the field of 21 players to earn the title of Bristol Street XII Champion! Would it be the defending Champion of Bristol Street XII, "Big Daddy" Paul W? Would tournament host, Zithal, be able to overcome the 20 other players looking to claim the birthday bounty on his head? Only four hours of poker playing would answer the question.
ASIDE: Before I go into the tournament report there were a couple hands which I (as host) didn't officiate correctly. I'd like to bring those up, both to apologize to the players affected and so that it's recorded so that I can make sure it won't happen again.
HAND#1: Three callers to the flop and the dealer deals out the flop, then immediately burns a card. Action continues and when it comes time to show the turn, the dealer burned another card before dealing the flop. I brought this up and another player mentioned the dealer had actually burned a third card while the hand was playing. Because of the dispute, I should have ruled the hand dead, but play continued and a player was eliminted on the hand.
Robert's rules doesn't seem to cover this senario, so I'm not sure what the proper ruling should have been. Regardless it was an unforuntate error and I think the player that was eliminted was stp's friend Ryan, so he has a free entry into my next tournament to apologize for the error.
To go along with this, I'm adding a new "house" rule to the Bristol Street Casino. 1) If a table has a community dealer, it may not be one of the players still alive in the tournament.
HAND #2: This was one of the more unfortunate hands in the history of the casino and so I'll recap. Tthree players see a sizable flop; players A, B, and C. I was at the table but not paying attention to the hand. When I had glaced up I noticed that Player B had gone all-in and Player A (who appeared to be the only player still in the hand) folded and Player B went to scoop the pot. At this point, Player C said that he didn't fold his hand and that Player A acted out of turn.
Both Players B and A said they thought he had folded and I asked Player C what he did. Player C told me that he picked up his hand, then put it down. Players A and B said they thought is was a fold. I ruled that Player C was allowed to act based on what he had told me; that he picked up and put down his hand.
Player C then called the all-in and caught a lucky river card to win a huge pot. Players A and B really started complaining and so I asked Player C exactly what he did. Player C now admitted that he put down his hand and moved it under the dealer button specifically to decieve Player A into believing that he folded, so that Player C could see what Player A was going to do before acting himself. His logic being because he never said he folded that he was OK. The hand was over, the chips had already moved and it wasn't til the next morning that I realized how big of an error I made, by allowing the hand to stand. Here's why...
1) Saying fold was never a requirement the entire night for a fold. Simply mucking your hand was enough to declare your hand dead.
2) Robert's Rules clearly state that "1. Your hand is declared dead if: ... (b) You throw your hand away in a forward motion causing another player to act behind you ..." which is EXACTLY what Player C did.
The blame is on myself for not calling this one correctly, (though I was mislead by Player C when he mentioned that he simply "put down his hand"). A ruling after the truth came out would have been more appropriate. I can only offer my apologies to the player(s) affected by this hand.
I'm also extremely dissapointed that this play went on at a friendly $10 tournament. The Poker Etiquette section of Robert's Rules of poker clearly frowns upon this type of play, and I don't want to see it at my house.
The player may have placed higher in the tournament because of this move, but they cost themselves the respect of a lot of people. 'Nuff said on this.
THE TOURNAMENT REPORT
I had placed a $10 bounty on my head and discouraged others from adding to it. Of course this didn't stop a couple people from tossing in so, for the first part of the night, the bounty was $25. While I still was able to rebuy, the bounty couldn't be collected and so I played a regular game building my stack up to roughly $2,000 from the starting $1,000.
The curse of the Bristol Street Champion was alive and well when "Big Daddy" Paul W. busted out of the tournament near the end of the re-buy in 19th place.
Once the rebuy ended, the tables quickly collapsed down to two and the new table I moved to decided to bump up the bounty on my head. Many of the players threw in cash to the cup and soon the bounty was at over $60 (quickly approaching second place money!)
I had a mark on my head and new I'd have to play VERY tight. Unforunately, I ended up going card dead on this table and barely played a hand for the next hour or so. Slowly I got blinded to death as was left with 5 BB's as we approached final table. I wanted to make a move soon to have some chips to play with, so I moved all in with A7 in MP at a six handed table. Tyson, on the BB woke up with Cowboys and it looked as if the bounty would be claimed right then.
"Don't worry, " I exclaimed as we turned our cards over, "cracking KK with A-junk is my specialty... just ask stp!" Sure enough, the flop came A7x. No more help for the KK's gave me a double up and I was able to coast into the final table a minute or two later
FINAL TABLE : Blinds 200-400
Seat 1: "Redington" Tyson ($200)
Seat 2: "ItsaMe" Mario ($7,200)
Seat 3: "Zithal" Rob ($3,100)
Seat 4: "stpboy" Shannon ($5,000)
Seat 5: Ian ($3,200)
Seat 6: "Brava" Dave ($1,500)
Seat 7: "Bluffy" Jeff ($6,900)
Seat 8: Dave ($4,400)
Four players at the final table, Ian, myself, stp and Mario were at the final table of Bristol Street XI, and the stacks were fairly close (except for the mountain that Tyson would have to climb, so it was anyone's game!)
8th PLACE : Ian
A few hands earlier, Tyson was all-in with his half a big-blind aginst three other players. Ian, the last to act, raised everyone else out of the pot and turned over TT to Tyson's KQ. A K came on the flop and Tyson quadrupled up to $800, with Ian's play netting him only an extra $400. A few hands later Ian found himself all-in and eliminated with another high place finish. Great game, Ian!
7th PLACE: "Brava" Dave S.
Tyson double up again, leaving Brava as the short stack on the table and, not wanting to make his fellow Sun Life co-worker feel bad, Dave found himself down to the felt and out with very few chips left. Congrats on another final table finish!
6th PLACE : "Zithal" Rob L. (Bubble-boy!!)
With a $60+ bounty on my head I was playing tight, perhaps more so since stp was on my left. (His trash talking made me postive that any hand I'd play he try to raise to isolate. I also kept positioning the Bounty cup so that he could see it.
Playing as the only player with a bounty was both a benefit and a curse. I'd get a lot of action, but I'd have to have the good to proceed with a hand.
Once it got down to the bubble, I found myself in the small blind, action folded to me with Q9d. I called and, not surprisingly stp riased 1,000 (blinds were 300-600 I believe. ) The call was a decent portion of my stack, but I felt that if I hit any part of my hand, I could double up here. I called the bet and the flop turned over a WONDROUS Q9x, giving me top two pair.
I moved in and Shannon sat and thank. Obviosuly the flop missed him, but I got the feeling that he'd call me even if he had a single overcard to the board hoping to hit it. After some thought, he called and turned over KJ. His overcard, the K was a false out, so we needed two runners or the T to knock me out.
The turn came a T, the Q and 9 didn't pair, and I was out on the bubble. Happy birthday to me!
(Actually, I was very glad that I lost the Bounty on a suck out and not due to my own stupid playing.)
5th PLACE: "ItasMe" Mario ($16)
Raising the minimum in the cut-off, Mario was then faced with a raise to all-in and a all-in call behind him. Mario thought and called turning over A3 facing AK and JJ from the other two players. No help eliminated Mario in 5th, which I believe was his placing at the last tournamnet. Congrats on two money finishes in a row!!
4th PLACE: "Bluffy" Jeff ($32)
After an entire evening of losing pots to Tyson as a big favorite I think the tilt factor caused him to lose the rest of it. Still I heard from a number of people who hadn't played with Bluffy on just how much better his game has gotten since they last played with him and 4th is an excellent finish in your return to Bristol Street!
3rd PLACE: "Redington" Tyson ($48)
A miracle comeback with some luck flops got Tyson back into the game and this guy is a dangerous fellow with chips in front of him. Congrats on the comeback from half a blind!
HEADS UP!
With two players left, tournement veteran "stpboy" had a mountain to climb against "INeedANickname" Dave, playing in only his second tournament.
Dave: $28,000
stpboy: $3,000
Dave played his big stack effectively, constantly putting Shannon to the decission. stp doubled-up once, but lost a second time, eliminated him and crowning Dave the Bristol Street XII champion netting him the first place money of $144, while Shannon took second and $80 (plus the $60 bounty he collected on my head)
These two players played an excellent game all tournament and deserved the spots they ended at! Great game all!!!
After the smoke cleared, a new champion bested the field of 21 players to earn the title of Bristol Street XII Champion! Would it be the defending Champion of Bristol Street XII, "Big Daddy" Paul W? Would tournament host, Zithal, be able to overcome the 20 other players looking to claim the birthday bounty on his head? Only four hours of poker playing would answer the question.
ASIDE: Before I go into the tournament report there were a couple hands which I (as host) didn't officiate correctly. I'd like to bring those up, both to apologize to the players affected and so that it's recorded so that I can make sure it won't happen again.
HAND#1: Three callers to the flop and the dealer deals out the flop, then immediately burns a card. Action continues and when it comes time to show the turn, the dealer burned another card before dealing the flop. I brought this up and another player mentioned the dealer had actually burned a third card while the hand was playing. Because of the dispute, I should have ruled the hand dead, but play continued and a player was eliminted on the hand.
Robert's rules doesn't seem to cover this senario, so I'm not sure what the proper ruling should have been. Regardless it was an unforuntate error and I think the player that was eliminted was stp's friend Ryan, so he has a free entry into my next tournament to apologize for the error.
To go along with this, I'm adding a new "house" rule to the Bristol Street Casino. 1) If a table has a community dealer, it may not be one of the players still alive in the tournament.
HAND #2: This was one of the more unfortunate hands in the history of the casino and so I'll recap. Tthree players see a sizable flop; players A, B, and C. I was at the table but not paying attention to the hand. When I had glaced up I noticed that Player B had gone all-in and Player A (who appeared to be the only player still in the hand) folded and Player B went to scoop the pot. At this point, Player C said that he didn't fold his hand and that Player A acted out of turn.
Both Players B and A said they thought he had folded and I asked Player C what he did. Player C told me that he picked up his hand, then put it down. Players A and B said they thought is was a fold. I ruled that Player C was allowed to act based on what he had told me; that he picked up and put down his hand.
Player C then called the all-in and caught a lucky river card to win a huge pot. Players A and B really started complaining and so I asked Player C exactly what he did. Player C now admitted that he put down his hand and moved it under the dealer button specifically to decieve Player A into believing that he folded, so that Player C could see what Player A was going to do before acting himself. His logic being because he never said he folded that he was OK. The hand was over, the chips had already moved and it wasn't til the next morning that I realized how big of an error I made, by allowing the hand to stand. Here's why...
1) Saying fold was never a requirement the entire night for a fold. Simply mucking your hand was enough to declare your hand dead.
2) Robert's Rules clearly state that "1. Your hand is declared dead if: ... (b) You throw your hand away in a forward motion causing another player to act behind you ..." which is EXACTLY what Player C did.
The blame is on myself for not calling this one correctly, (though I was mislead by Player C when he mentioned that he simply "put down his hand"). A ruling after the truth came out would have been more appropriate. I can only offer my apologies to the player(s) affected by this hand.
I'm also extremely dissapointed that this play went on at a friendly $10 tournament. The Poker Etiquette section of Robert's Rules of poker clearly frowns upon this type of play, and I don't want to see it at my house.
The player may have placed higher in the tournament because of this move, but they cost themselves the respect of a lot of people. 'Nuff said on this.
THE TOURNAMENT REPORT
I had placed a $10 bounty on my head and discouraged others from adding to it. Of course this didn't stop a couple people from tossing in so, for the first part of the night, the bounty was $25. While I still was able to rebuy, the bounty couldn't be collected and so I played a regular game building my stack up to roughly $2,000 from the starting $1,000.
The curse of the Bristol Street Champion was alive and well when "Big Daddy" Paul W. busted out of the tournament near the end of the re-buy in 19th place.
Once the rebuy ended, the tables quickly collapsed down to two and the new table I moved to decided to bump up the bounty on my head. Many of the players threw in cash to the cup and soon the bounty was at over $60 (quickly approaching second place money!)
I had a mark on my head and new I'd have to play VERY tight. Unforunately, I ended up going card dead on this table and barely played a hand for the next hour or so. Slowly I got blinded to death as was left with 5 BB's as we approached final table. I wanted to make a move soon to have some chips to play with, so I moved all in with A7 in MP at a six handed table. Tyson, on the BB woke up with Cowboys and it looked as if the bounty would be claimed right then.
"Don't worry, " I exclaimed as we turned our cards over, "cracking KK with A-junk is my specialty... just ask stp!" Sure enough, the flop came A7x. No more help for the KK's gave me a double up and I was able to coast into the final table a minute or two later
FINAL TABLE : Blinds 200-400
Seat 1: "Redington" Tyson ($200)
Seat 2: "ItsaMe" Mario ($7,200)
Seat 3: "Zithal" Rob ($3,100)
Seat 4: "stpboy" Shannon ($5,000)
Seat 5: Ian ($3,200)
Seat 6: "Brava" Dave ($1,500)
Seat 7: "Bluffy" Jeff ($6,900)
Seat 8: Dave ($4,400)
Four players at the final table, Ian, myself, stp and Mario were at the final table of Bristol Street XI, and the stacks were fairly close (except for the mountain that Tyson would have to climb, so it was anyone's game!)
8th PLACE : Ian
A few hands earlier, Tyson was all-in with his half a big-blind aginst three other players. Ian, the last to act, raised everyone else out of the pot and turned over TT to Tyson's KQ. A K came on the flop and Tyson quadrupled up to $800, with Ian's play netting him only an extra $400. A few hands later Ian found himself all-in and eliminated with another high place finish. Great game, Ian!
7th PLACE: "Brava" Dave S.
Tyson double up again, leaving Brava as the short stack on the table and, not wanting to make his fellow Sun Life co-worker feel bad, Dave found himself down to the felt and out with very few chips left. Congrats on another final table finish!
6th PLACE : "Zithal" Rob L. (Bubble-boy!!)
With a $60+ bounty on my head I was playing tight, perhaps more so since stp was on my left. (His trash talking made me postive that any hand I'd play he try to raise to isolate. I also kept positioning the Bounty cup so that he could see it.
Playing as the only player with a bounty was both a benefit and a curse. I'd get a lot of action, but I'd have to have the good to proceed with a hand.
Once it got down to the bubble, I found myself in the small blind, action folded to me with Q9d. I called and, not surprisingly stp riased 1,000 (blinds were 300-600 I believe. ) The call was a decent portion of my stack, but I felt that if I hit any part of my hand, I could double up here. I called the bet and the flop turned over a WONDROUS Q9x, giving me top two pair.
I moved in and Shannon sat and thank. Obviosuly the flop missed him, but I got the feeling that he'd call me even if he had a single overcard to the board hoping to hit it. After some thought, he called and turned over KJ. His overcard, the K was a false out, so we needed two runners or the T to knock me out.
The turn came a T, the Q and 9 didn't pair, and I was out on the bubble. Happy birthday to me!
(Actually, I was very glad that I lost the Bounty on a suck out and not due to my own stupid playing.)5th PLACE: "ItasMe" Mario ($16)
Raising the minimum in the cut-off, Mario was then faced with a raise to all-in and a all-in call behind him. Mario thought and called turning over A3 facing AK and JJ from the other two players. No help eliminated Mario in 5th, which I believe was his placing at the last tournamnet. Congrats on two money finishes in a row!!
4th PLACE: "Bluffy" Jeff ($32)
After an entire evening of losing pots to Tyson as a big favorite I think the tilt factor caused him to lose the rest of it. Still I heard from a number of people who hadn't played with Bluffy on just how much better his game has gotten since they last played with him and 4th is an excellent finish in your return to Bristol Street!
3rd PLACE: "Redington" Tyson ($48)
A miracle comeback with some luck flops got Tyson back into the game and this guy is a dangerous fellow with chips in front of him. Congrats on the comeback from half a blind!
HEADS UP!
With two players left, tournement veteran "stpboy" had a mountain to climb against "INeedANickname" Dave, playing in only his second tournament.
Dave: $28,000
stpboy: $3,000
Dave played his big stack effectively, constantly putting Shannon to the decission. stp doubled-up once, but lost a second time, eliminated him and crowning Dave the Bristol Street XII champion netting him the first place money of $144, while Shannon took second and $80 (plus the $60 bounty he collected on my head)
These two players played an excellent game all tournament and deserved the spots they ended at! Great game all!!!
Comments
1. "INeedANick" Dave - 11:14pm ($144)
2. "stpboy" Shannon - 11:14pm ($80)
3. "Redington" Tyson - 11:09pm ($48)
4. "Bluffy" Jeff B. - 11:06pm ($32)
5. "ItsaMe" Mario - 10:57pm ($16)
6. "Zithal" Rob L - 10:49pm (Bubble Boy!)
7. "Brava" Dave S - 10:41pm
8. Ian R. - 10:37pm
9. "Slippery" Pete A. - 10:25pm
10. Kory - 10:05pm
11. "Zorro" Chris T. - 9:59pm
12. John H. - 9:40pm
13. Geoff C. - 9:33pm
14. "Skittlepoker" Bill S. - 9:31pm
15. "duggy" Ryan - 9:21pm
16. "8Ball" Tye Z. - 9:13pm
17. Jonathan C. "squared" - 8:55pm
18. "Shopsy" - 8:28pm
19. "Big Daddy" Paul W. - 8:23pm (*defending Champion)
20. Paul S. - 8:02pm
21. "DirtyWhore" Mark B. - 7:27pm
Feel free to share your favorite moments/hands of the tournament below and look for Bristol Street XIII to be announced soon!A
Well, I will come right out here. These were both me!!!
The dealing error absolultely my screw up and I will cover the cost of the rebuy. I didn't know how badly this screw up was taken and would have declared the hand a redeal.
I love dealing cause it causes me to really focus on what everyone else is doing, maybe I should focus on the dealing :redface:
As for the the fold move, it was delibert. I chucked down my cards to make it look like I folded. They were not in the muck, they were under the button disc.
I didn't deny this move and Im sorry that you felt misled Rob. I did not say fold, and I did not get the cards any where near the muck.
There were numerous times (at least 3 or 4) when I said nothing and had my cards in front of me as players acted out of turn I could bet or fold based on thier actions, I was using this to my advantage.
I was at a large tourney a week ago were this was happening consistantly against me, I took it as a 'smart' players edge.
I thank you for posting the rules as it clears up the questionable conduct, I was cheating. I appologize.
I will leave it up to you wether I get invited back again.
stp
Besides it wouldn't be the Triumverate of Waterloo low-limit poker without the "Bristol Street Night Club and Casino", "The Park Street Poker Pit" and the "Waterloo Poker Cave".
Perhaps we should start think Kitchener-Waterloo Poker Tour.
As far as the dealing error goes, is it really that big of a deal? To my mind, as long as no one sees the cards, no one gains an advantage from an extra burn card. It is not the same result but it is still 'random'. To avoid further problems, I recommend only burning the card after the action, just before turning.
stp
I have the webspace to even make it look official too
Lets get it figured out.
Redington
rob sure is a smart guy eh??
thanks,
johnny
stp
Make sure you call ESPN. Also, go for the corporate sponsors. Labbatts would be nice...
$20/event sounds good to me.
I've played at WPC, lost chips to stpboy etc...i'd trust all 3 of you with my $200.00 up front.
Dave
Thank you very much. It's nice to have the trust of fellow members and nice to be remembered for 'taking chips'
stp
I think if you take something like 10-15% out of the prize pool for the final tourney, and make the entry into the final tourney a higher buy-in it would work. Say the top ten point players get a free pass into the final. That way it provides incentive to play each tourney.
Whatever you guys come up with, I'll be interested -- just not putting up the whole fee up front.
Cheers
Magi
johnny
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p.s. I did read somewhere its BAD LUCK to play any type of Poker on TUESDAY NIGHTS...as traditionally in Canada, fat guys play Oldtimers hockey on Tuesday nights.
stp
Wow, a little over zealous? This would almost be as hard a schedule as the WSOP!
***note ok Im a moron, I thought this said 9 tournaments OVER 2 weeks not every two weeks. Aduh
How about the top three of each venue get invited to the final, as well as the next 5 point leaders that are not a previous winners (some one like Shoppsy who consistantly plays well but keeps seeing the rail
That would give us 32 for the final, plus produce an all around points winner.
I think we could do it as independent events as all three of us have a seperate players list s with some playes that would be intrested in all three venues.
Then a portion of the pot from each tourny gets put into the main event pot.
ie $25 with rebuys typically have a pot of $900 at WPC, so $800 for the main pot and $900 for the final (after 9 events). or perhaps a buy in plus $5 for the championship event. Top three paying with a trophy?
Lets get it on!