AK vs QQ
if you held AK and you knew your opponent had QQ would you call??
and if so underwhat circumstances??
Im not a gambler by nature and dont like pushing small edges especially the wrong side of them
i think i could only make this call short chipped in a tournament?
ive been told on other forums that this is a NO BRAINER CALL
just curious if there is anyone else that feels this way?
and if so underwhat circumstances??
Im not a gambler by nature and dont like pushing small edges especially the wrong side of them
i think i could only make this call short chipped in a tournament?
ive been told on other forums that this is a NO BRAINER CALL
just curious if there is anyone else that feels this way?
Comments
QQ 53.8%
AKs 46.2%
not suited
AK 42.8
QQ 57.2
I'm not sure how good poker stove is.
I know I would rather have QQ. I'll take a lead before the flop any day. Come to think about it, 22 should be just about as good as QQ in that situation. Heads up of course.
Now there are couple other spots I would think about the call. First is in the rebuy stages of a tourney I easily gamble it up on coin flip. Another would be when I'm in the late stages of a tourney and all my opponents are outplaying me. In this case I would be pushing small edges much harder. This would occur when all my opponents are simply much better than me (probably not until the final table) or when I'm simply off my game. Either way I will only win the tourney if the cards are nice to me so pushing a coin flip would considered a good play to me.
1. During the rebuy period of a tournament
2. I have a large stack and a small stack pushes all in
3. I have a small stack and need to double up soon
I would fold AK when:
1. first hand of a non rebuy tournament a player pushes all in.
2 I have an avg stack and a player that has me covered pushes all in
3 I am one of the chip leaders and a player that has 75% of my stack pushes all in
Know fact
9 at the table, your on the button
Blind 100-200 ante 25
3 caller before you
you call with xx
SB all-in 800
BB and the 3 caller folds
It cost you 600 and the pot is 1,975
Does it matter what you hold or what your stack size is?
I'm leaning torward an automatic call wathever you have whatever the stage of the tourney IF you think the SB is either semi-bluffing or desperate to win this pot because of the presure of the blind.
Gide
If it was me I would call 99% of the time, it would depend on my mood and how the cards were falling.
I beleive in going with your gut. How do you feelwhen the bet is made and you look back down at your cards? Ask yourself "Do I feel lucky?"
During the last B & M tourney I played, I folded AK twice. Both times I was the chip leader and someone had raised and someone else infront of me had re raised. Seeing the cards that came out after this, justified my fold.
I beleive this folding was the one of the reasons I finnished well into the money. One of the only times I would call if it were a really short stack pushing in, in early position.
Rob M.
All, depends on how the stack sizes AND the number of players in the pot AND the ability of the QQ dude. Can they fold after the flop comes with an A or K -- ie. can you get implied odds? You're only going to hit the flop something around 30% of the time. If you have deep stacks, you need to get more chips out of the guy to make the call effective. So, if they are not that skilled, you can get more chips post flop and don't need to push pre-flop.
Now, if QQ dude is a good player, and you won't get more chips out of him post flop, then you need to evaluate if you NEED to take the slightly negative EV play and push all your chips pre-flop. This could be a tournament or cash game situation. In a cash game, this would be good if you can put a decent player on tilt -- so you're getting implied odds for the session, not the hand. Others have commente on the tournament situation.
If there are other players in the pot, they are likely giving you and QQ dude odds, so it is likely a +EV call, in the hand.
Also, it's very important if AK is suited or not. That changes the odds.
Cheers
Magi
MP3 (t990)
CO (t2515)
Button (t685)
SB (t1650)
BB (t2620)
UTG (t2335)
UTG+1 (t2215)
Hero (t1110)
MP2 (t525)
Preflop: Hero is MP1 with As, Kc.
UTG raises to t150, 4 folds, CO raises to t450, 3 folds, UTG calls t300.
The key for this fold is that Yub has lost his last two battles with the short stack. If I raise, I know he's pushing all in. And, if I call I can't push in to get him to fold. It just ain't happening. If I was on the button, I might go for it. But becuase I'm in early position, I really fear the raise behind me. I'm not deep enough to call and fold, or push. So, I fold.
Flop: (t975) Jh, 4s, 4d (2 players)
UTG bets t200, CO raises to t400, UTG raises to t600, CO calls t200.
Turn: (t2175) 7c (2 players)
UTG bets t300, CO raises to t1465, UTG calls t985 (All-In).
River: (t4925) 9d (2 players, 1 all-in)
Final Pot: t4925
Results below:
UTG has Th Ts (two pair, tens and fours).
CO has Qs Qd (two pair, queens and fours).
Outcome: CO wins t4925.
this hand haunts me
i thought i was good the entire way i put him on AK,AQ or a lower pocket pair
I hate that i let myself superglue to instict and not fold
To me his all in re raise on the turn screamed at me hes stealing it call.
I should stop listening when i hear a screaming to call.
As long as ive learned from it money well spent, right???
Sorry! I thought you would find it interesting, given I folded AK. I think your emotions were running high, given you lost three battles and were looking to make up some ground. That makes it much easier to rationalize pkr's all-in much more easily, because that's what you "need" to believe. Always good to examine your state of mind before putting someone on a hand -- is it something you WANT to believe or actually believe.
It was a tough run of hands for you, and I know that emotional state because I've been there and get there quite often. I sure does help burn some pathways into the neurons though!
Cheers
Magi
there was definitly no need to be sorry just not one of my poker highlights but it does provide insight on my question.
But i dont feel my emotions had anything to do with my call it.
my precived emotional state is something i should start to take into consideration from now on.