What do you think of these Canadian Player and Casino Rankings?

My buddy put some time into these, few forumers and guys you all have surely played with in them:

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Casinos for tourney play:

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Please comment and he will adjust according to feedback.
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  • how is btp not on that list with a couple international ships/deep runs and a ship at GBH
  • Because the forst list is Canadian events only and the criteria of ten cashes and plus 100k here in Canada

    This is Canadian players International.

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  • costanza wrote: »
    how is btp not on that list with a couple international ships/deep runs and a ship at GBH

    Until Ontario changes their views on poker, this list will generally be dominated by Westerners, and is a pretty unrealistic showing of the best players in Canada.

    I know this, cuz I've played against 12 on the list of Cdn cashes, and 1 on the International cashes.

    Smart YYZ fulltime players should have moved out west already if they enjoy live tourney play (and Vegas is much closer).
  • costanza wrote: »
    how is btp not on that list with a couple international ships/deep runs and a ship at GBH

    Although he is a forum favourite, and a great player, he still has not had the success that these players have had. With a full WSOP schedule, this may be his year.

    Steve Tripp's Poker Statistics: Hendon Mob Poker Database
  • pokerJAH wrote: »
    Although he is a forum favourite, and a great player, he still has not had the success that these players have had. With a full WSOP schedule, this may be his year.



    Steve Tripp's Poker Statistics: Hendon Mob Poker Database


    This is a level right?
  • pokerJAH wrote: »
    Although he is a forum favourite, and a great player, he still has not had the success that these players have had. With a full WSOP schedule, this may be his year.

    Steve Tripp's Poker Statistics: Hendon Mob Poker Database

    wtf

    obv level is obv

    im not a nut swinger, but steve has amazing sicko deep runs against international fields that are way tougher, bigger and sicker then rinky dink canadian tour events that no one gives a shit about, his "success" is way better then just about everyone in the OP's links.
  • pokerJAH wrote: »
    Although he is a forum favourite, and a great player, he still has not had the success that these players have had. With a full WSOP schedule, this may be his year.

    Steve Tripp's Poker Statistics: Hendon Mob Poker Database

    Like to here opinions on tourney rankings too. My buddy worked hard to make sure list wasn't biased.

    10 cashes, more than 100k on Canadian soil. And there are players from all over. Keep in mind most of these guys have 3-5 rings from field sizes and buyins just as big as the side events on world circuit.

    His side comments also add to how he weighed this. James Werry and Richard Webb, both guys have final tabled and or won tournaments just about in every provinces/ cities majors, pretty damn impressive if you put favorites aside.
  • costanza wrote: »
    wtf

    obv level is obv

    im not a nut swinger, but steve has amazing sicko deep runs against international fields that are way tougher, bigger and sicker then rinky dink canadian tour events that no one gives a shit about, his "success" is way better then just about everyone in the OP's links.


    Remember, noone out 'west' knows who BTP is either....kinda like you don't know who anyone on that list is, so might be better to not make assumptions.

    And lol that a Euro tourney would be harder than one in Canada for equal buy-in.

    fyi.........Jofay made the list
  • T8urmoney wrote: »
    Remember, noone out 'west' knows who BTP is either....kinda like you don't know who anyone on that list is, so might be better to not make assumptions.

    And lol that a Euro tourney would be harder than one in Canada for equal buy-in.

    fyi.........Jofay made the list

    jofay was the only one I recognized... I am very, very into the whole poker scene as a whole, but alas, maybe ill give the "westerners" a bit more interest and get a little more informed on that scene out there before I make outbursts like my post prior lol.

    didnt mean to offend
  • ha ha, no offence taken sir.......I used to think the same about YYZ poker, til I met a few of them
  • Oh my comment was directed to the rankings as I fully understand the Canadian content. My comment was directed to the fact from the comment on "he hasn't had as much success as others on the list"

    Now if the comment is further qualified by saying "on canadian soil" I totally agree, but to say overall he hasn't had similar success that is just ludacris.

    No doubt we are biased on this forum but I think in the past few years he has really picked it up here in Canada/Europe/USA/Bahammas
  • Just curious as to why I'm not on the list...




















    lol, ok I might be kidding a bit there, but is the Hendon Mob database not considered accurate? If not what database is accurate for world results and shows different numbers for BTP?
  • Theres never going to be East on the list outside of Graham who travels.

    Jon Lam has a big bink otherwise he moves from 2 to off the list.

    Is the list accurate, technically yes, theoretically, no.
  • I guess its just the title of the article thats deceiving.
  • defiantly have a lot more work to do before i deserve to be on any list like this, thx for the compliments though boys
  • Aren't the Canadian rankings simply based on known cashes, with no room for opinion or bias? For example, I would rate pro Graham Lupton better than #23, but since his known cashes is only 23rd (missing a lot of Ontario results), then that is the site's ranking.
    jontm wrote: »
    Like to here opinions on tourney rankings too. My buddy worked hard to make sure list wasn't biased.
    10 cashes, more than 100k on Canadian soil.
  • It's true, known cashes make a difference. Which is why he hopes people will update him with any they have, or ask their casino to send in results, or better still yet put them in themselves.

    As for Jofay Being on the list, you might check his profile one of these days. Besides some decent Canadian event finishes, like 2nd in Brad Booth Classic and the CPT Invitational, you might be surprised to know he finished like 17th in a WSOP 1k

    John Lamb did have a huge score but he has slaughtered GBH, think he prob has close to 100k in cashes there. First time I met him finished 3rd in Edmontons Main event after flying in to check it out, so he can play just as well outside Ontario.

    So yeah, even outwest we know who some of the tough players are here in Canada, like Lupton and Eric Place. Most people who read do know of BTP by now and Steve Kerr, pretty hard not to notice.

    He does want this to be accurate, so if there is merit to changing something, post it on that page please!
  • compuease wrote: »
    Just curious as to why I'm not on the list...

    Hendon Mob is by far the most accurate for Canadian results in general until he gets done imputing his. He does have many they don't, as the former operations manager of CPT.

    He has also built the function in to allow players to add their own if have.
  • This is a level right?

    I can't keep up with all this new poker slang. Looking at the Hendon Mob dbase, GTP hasn't had a big live score, or multiple like the players noted. If the dbase is not accurate, I stand corrected. Not saying he doesn't have the ability, he just needs more exposure to these bigger tournaments, which is just a matter of time.
  • Poker Pages
    Hendon Mob
    Card Player

    all have different results for players
  • Also, FWIW, John Lam "popkorn", Shane Brotherwood "slb69" and Jody "jofay" Fayant are all PFC members. 3/25 ain't bad and that's just the ones I know of.

    Expect this list to also change drastically once a few more guys get a few cashes; the Smith brothers, Zenni Petros, Ben Leblond, Steve Tripp, Steve Kerr, Jerome Makonen and John Wilson are just a few players all well on their way to breaking the 10 Canadian cashes and 100k.
  • jontm wrote: »
    Hendon Mob is by far the most accurate for Canadian results in general until he gets done imputing his.
    Iamranked.com used to have the most Canadian results. But the site seems to be dead now, so my cashes from the 2009 CPT Finals, Brantford $2K & $1K events, Point Edward BWC & other Ontario events have disappeared. :-\
    pokerJAH wrote: »
    I can't keep up with all this new poker slang. Looking at the Hendon Mob dbase, GTP hasn't had a big live score
    Your Hendon Mob link for BTP shows known live scores of over $240,000. What would you consider a big live score?? :confused:
  • BlondeFish wrote: »
    Iamranked.com used to have the most Canadian results. But the site seems to be dead now, so my cashes from the 2009 CPT Finals, Brantford $2K & $1K events, Point Edward BWC & other Ontario events have disappeared. :-\

    Your Hendon Mob link for BTP shows known live scores of over $240,000. What would you consider a big live score?? :confused:

    But, those results are for worldwide cashes, not just Canadian. the rankings list top CANADIAN cashes, then world wide.

    If you include world wide, now you are talking Negreanu, Smith, Duhamel, et al. All of whom play buy in events, with prizes well above what BTP has been able to play.
  • BlondeFish wrote: »
    Iamranked.com used to have the most Canadian results. But the site seems to be dead now, so my cashes from the 2009 CPT Finals, Brantford $2K & $1K events, Point Edward BWC & other Ontario events have disappeared. :-\

    Your Hendon Mob link for BTP shows known live scores of over $240,000. What would you consider a big live score?? :confused:

    Ron will most likely have those as the goal is to backdate to 2000.
    It's gonna take forever.

    I started sending in Hendon what I had and they sometimes contact me when they are tracking down something. most recently it was Fallsview and with 6 other sites and player agents we reamed them out. They told us that privacy policies prevented releasing full results. I reminded them that it wasn't a problem when Gavin is winning.

    Anyway we figured if we have to do the legwork anyway, we might as well do it ourselves. Hence also the ability for casinos and players to create accounts and remotely add their own. (players no charge).

    In time, this should be the most accurate list/database for Canadian results. Provided it catches on.

    This is list 1.0
  • BlondeFish wrote: »
    What would you consider a big live score??

    Criteria listed is over $100k if you include international results. We all know the Canadian fields are much tougher :)
  • pokerJAH wrote: »
    I can't keep up with all this new poker slang. Looking at the Hendon Mob dbase, GTP hasn't had a big live score, or multiple like the players noted. If the dbase is not accurate, I stand corrected. Not saying he doesn't have the ability, he just needs more exposure to these bigger tournaments, which is just a matter of time.


    Well that is a lot different from what you originally posted...I agree with the above.
  • I like it. New goal for 2013 get into the top 25 list. I added my stats for the fun of it
  • crazykoby wrote: »
    I like it. New goal for 2013 get into the top 25 list. I added my stats for the fun of it


    My goal for 2013, get on the database :)
  • Westside and Comp let me know if I am crossing any lines posting about another site. I am going to post link to this thread on Facebook page to get more of the Westerners coming here. I don't believe you would consider this completion to forum and is and will remain zero online poker affiliate.

    Anywhoo, Ron asked me to post this. He doesn't want to overstep or break any rules do just past on to me. Thanks to guys who are filling in stats and still hoping to hear opinions on venues list.

    Here is message:
    "Players I love the forum debate as all of the rankings were created for just that reason. *Poker within Canada needs better exposure and the PPC website is trying to fix that. *The current rankings display what I know - Western Canada puts on regular large field events. *The PPC tournament venue rankings reflect that the most consistent contributors to Canadian tournament poker are in the west and as a result the top 25 players all make this list via their results in those events. *For the top 25 players rankings list within Canada to be truly accurate we need the cooperation from every Canadian tournament venue. *However in the mean time the list will be dominated by Western Canadians because of the ten plus years of credible major tourneys which Eastern Canada has been lacking. *I hope for my eastern friends that bigger, better and more regular events are on the horizon in Ontario where I grew up. *There are many excellent poker players in Canada and the rankings list is not for excluding players or missing them but rather for showcasing who has proven results. *I would love this list too change as a result of this forum thread and the addition of past results. *Good luck to everyone and I hope the PPC rankings will carry enough credibility that Canadian poker players wish to make it on the list themselves." *Sincerely, Ron Campbell *PPC President
  • crazykoby wrote: »
    I like it. New goal for 2013 get into the top 25 list. I added my stats for the fun of it

    Ohh I smell a prop.
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