the random double barrel

Richard~

With really pressured stacks. How important is it to have this play to pull out every once in a while? and how often would you try it?

PokerStars Hand #78869644165: Tournament #543062832, $3.00+$0.30 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVI (350/700) - 2012/04/14 22:53:35 CET [2012/04/14 16:53:35 ET]
Table '543062832 104' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: atlanter1 (7104 in chips)
Seat 2: ladyluv11 (26298 in chips)
Seat 3: Nilaya1408 (42810 in chips)
Seat 4: Konffetka527 (1595 in chips)
Seat 5: sychkov (27233 in chips)
Seat 6: sudak32 (11877 in chips)
Seat 7: minette62 (13145 in chips)
Seat 8: Serenkiy7 (25067 in chips)
Seat 9: IRichardI (17667 in chips)
atlanter1: posts the ante 85
ladyluv11: posts the ante 85
Nilaya1408: posts the ante 85
Konffetka527: posts the ante 85
sychkov: posts the ante 85
sudak32: posts the ante 85
minette62: posts the ante 85
Serenkiy7: posts the ante 85
IRichardI: posts the ante 85
sudak32: posts small blind 350
minette62: posts big blind 700
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to IRichardI [:qd :10d]
Serenkiy7: folds
IRichardI: raises 775 to 1475
atlanter1: folds
ladyluv11: folds
Nilaya1408: folds
Konffetka527: folds
sychkov: folds
sudak32: folds
minette62: calls 775
*** FLOP *** [:2d :7h :9c]
minette62: checks
IRichardI: bets 2100
minette62: calls 2100
*** TURN *** [:2d :7h :9c] [:4s]
minette62: checks
IRichardI: bets 3200
minette62: folds
Uncalled bet (3200) returned to IRichardI
IRichardI collected 8265 from pot
IRichardI: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 8265 | Rake 0
Board [2d 7h 9c 4s]
Seat 1: atlanter1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: ladyluv11 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Nilaya1408 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Konffetka527 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: sychkov (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: sudak32 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: minette62 (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 8: Serenkiy7 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: IRichardI collected (8265)

Unknown

I only choose to double barrel when I have some equity

when you have zero, and get looked up with A high , you feel about an inch tall lol

Unknown

prob bet a lil less on flop and turn ...i can't add up the pot, but im betting the turn for value ???

Richard~

darbday wrote: »

prob bet a lil less on flop and turn ...i can't add up the pot, but im betting the turn for value ???

flop is 2,1 into 4k. Turn is 3,2 into 8,5. If you're betting turn for value you're doing something wrong :P

betrthanphil

Richard~ wrote: »

flop is 2,1 into 4k. Turn is 3,2 into 8,5. If you're betting turn for value you're doing something wrong :P

Im with yoda and say bet smaller on bother street, too many people look at betting according to the pot, when really in this case you should be betting according to his stack. If your going to 1 barrel than the bet is ok I guess, but I'm still betting less. If you 2 barreling Id prob make it 1600 flop and 2500ish on the turn.

Unknown

Richard~ wrote: »

flop is 2,1 into 4k. Turn is 3,2 into 8,5. If you're betting turn for value you're doing something wrong :P

Ha ???....ok I'm down wtih 2 barrels or sometimes i check behind turn and consider and AKTJ one of my outs....

bet sizing isn't as big as i thought

Richard~

when seing this flop with these stacks I never imagined getting the chance to double barrel since I expect him jam or fold vs my cbet a high percentage of the time. Why chose a sizing that looks weak enough to encourage villain to go aggro?

And darb, I'm not sure checking behind and trying to find a "scarecard" to bet 3k on makes a lot of sense since you immediatly lose all the pressure you had on his stack by doing so, he'll probably call down with any pair so much more often if you do that

Unknown

Richard~ wrote: »

when seing this flop with these stacks I never imagined getting the chance to double barrel since I expect him jam or fold vs my cbet a high percentage of the time. Why chose a sizing that looks weak enough to encourage villain to go aggro?

And darb, I'm not sure checking behind and trying to find a "scarecard" to bet 3k on makes a lot of sense since you immediatly lose all the pressure you had on his stack by doing so, he'll probably call down with any pair so much more often if you do that

I agree villain jams or folds mostly and flats less. I think his check fold range doesn't change much vs a bigger bet. The hand that call the flop are usually going to call vs a brick on the turn and some will c/r.

As for betting the scare card I dunno, I use it a lot, its really hard for even a rec player not to put you on broadway when you check the turn after cbetting. It doesn't work all the time, but I think it works an amount of time proportional to the bet vs. the pot.