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  • UnknownUnknown
    costanza wrote: »
    I like the line of 3b pre oop fwiw , looks super strong from the bb .....
    ya you would say that, followed by donk out our stack oop with air? anways, what thread are you in?
  • UnknownUnknown
    darbday wrote: »
    ya you would say that, followed by donk out our stack oop with air? anways, what thread are you in?

    reverse levelling going on itt mixed with me being mentally handicapped = lol

    anyways, did u even consider 3b on the btn?
  • Richard~Richard~
    darbday wrote: »
    totally agree, no i don't



    i was actually curious about this, but it didn't seem right, the initiative to me is he is cbets almost every flop


    isn't threading fun?

    are you saying you're defenseless is he opens 55% and 4 bets 40?
  • UnknownUnknown
    Richard~ wrote: »
    are you saying you're defenseless is he opens 55% and 4 bets 40?
    no im saying kqs is to good to raise fold but i don't understand your post her e
  • Richard~Richard~
    so you're saying you really really want to crack the aces he has here like 3% of the time?
  • UnknownUnknown
    Richard~ wrote: »
    so you're saying you really really want to crack the aces he has here like 3% of the time?
    zero idea what this means :confused:
  • MeistroMeistro
    fold the flop u have king hi and there is an ace on the board
  • MeistroMeistro
    hero is not BB he is button, but being in position vs a late position raise are both two good reasons to three bet.
  • UnknownUnknown
    Meistro wrote: »
    hero is not BB he is button, but being in position vs a late position raise are both two good reasons to three bet.

    yes yes
  • UnknownUnknown
    Richard~ wrote: »
    so you're saying you really really want to crack the aces he has here like 3% of the time?
    took me a bit...nonono...i don't want him to fold i
  • Richard~Richard~
    I was sleeping. What I meant was theat you think he's opening wide, you're not worried about getting 4bet light, you're not looking to crack big hands, you're mainly calling pre cause you think you're ahead of his opening range.I just think you can pretty safely 3bet for value
  • UnknownUnknown
    Richard~ wrote: »
    I was sleeping. What I meant was theat you think he's opening wide, you're not worried about getting 4bet light, you're not looking to crack big hands, you're mainly calling pre cause you think you're ahead of his opening range.I just think you can pretty safely 3bet for value
    The idea is he folds almost everything when I 3bet and then I waste kqs. I mean 3betting kqs might be right here but I'm guessing flatting has merit, it just looks weird the way things panned out.

    But the whole premise of this hand is im going to float regs cbets on Ace high boards and watch them hit the auto fold checkbox all day long, because they are cbetting nearly 100% on A high boards and check folding hands like JJ because they are on 20 tables.....thats why I bet the turn so small (autofolds).


    But when he called and the river missed the draw I figure I have to make a small bluff (no show down value), which i think is completely reasonable and I can't understand why BTP said its not a believable story that i have an Ace. ???

    looking back though maybe I should check the river back and expect King high to be good vs his missed draws.


    Anyways villain called with ATo and I was surprised.
  • MeistroMeistro
    your prime consideration in any poker game is to take down the pot if that is an option. i would much rather win at an earlier street then possibly win at a later street.
  • Richard~Richard~
    Meistro wrote: »
    your prime consideration in any poker game is to take down the pot if that is an option. i would much rather win at an earlier street then possibly win at a later street.

    Rethink poker


    and darbday, his line looks exactly like a10, I don't get why that is suprising. Playing it your way is most likely fine, but I would 3 bet because I don't think he'll fold much at all. Also as you said, KQ has a lot of showndown value vs the range that calls turn so bluffing river doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

    My initial comment still stands, try to define the hand a big more at different stages of the hand, whether you do that preflop by 3betting for value or bettinga bit more on the turn is up to you I guess

    also, what btp meant was probably that you would check almost all aces that weren't two pair so the range you're repping on the river is a lot slimmer than without the obvious draws getting there
  • UnknownUnknown
    Meistro wrote: »
    your prime consideration in any poker game is to take down the pot if that is an option. i would much rather win at an earlier street then possibly win at a later street.

    QFlulz
  • VekkedVekked
    Only 3B pre if he doesn't fold to 3-bets often. If he's folding QJo/KJo/all the hands you dominate then 3-betting doesn't make much sense with this hand.

    Floating this flop isn't that bad vs. some people but I'd rather have some back doors or something and not just a pure float. If you're floating your reason isn't to be making him fold an ace, it should be because you don't think he has many aces in his range and he c-bets a super high % on this board. So it depends on his opening range + his c-betting range, c-betting range is the most important stat, it should be >80%. His CO steal is also important, it has to be pretty high as well, but steal % stat doesn't say quite as much because he might be tighter pre-ante, but his c-bet % is probably similar at any stage.
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