like a deer in headlights...

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 5.5 Tournament, 500/1000 Blinds 125 Ante (9 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG+1 (t49955)
MP1 (t26568)
BeastlyCostanza (MP2) (t28957)
MP3 (t43329)
CO (t10535)
Button (t13410)
SB (t19573)
BB (t14924)
UTG (t18786)

BeastlyCostanza's M: 11.03

Preflop: BeastlyCostanza is MP2 with J, J
UTG calls t1000, 2 folds, BeastlyCostanza bets t3333, 4 folds, BB raises to t14799 (All-In), UTG calls t13799, BeastlyCostanza ??


table change... utg limp mystifies me

whats our over calling range??

plz help

Unknown

call it

some reasons....jj you can prob overcall 25 bbs without even thinking about it
utg limper can still have kjo,
you still have a decent stack if you lose (prob doesn't matter if you didn't still call)

more reason but most of all......

why did you 3bet pre? edit: to call utg's jam?

Unknown

:mad:

payperview

I agree, your losing to a limped AA, KK, QQ. I call

Unknown

darbday wrote: »

call it

some reasons....jj you can prob overcall 25 bbs without even thinking about it
utg limper can still have kjo,
you still have a decent stack if you lose (prob doesn't matter if you didn't still call)

more reason but most of all......

why did you 3bet pre?

I thought 3 betting JJ to any limp at all is std?? I dont really wanna set mine limp from LP.... so limping along really isnt an option imo ... utg could have misclick limped/ be a moron / etc...

I was def calling BB shove.... utg calling the shove is what is confusing me, his range is always QQ+ AQ+ , right?

maybe im a nit, or horribad, I dont know

I guess what im asking is, BB's range is decently wide, and im probably ahead at worst flipping.... but what it UTG's flatting/calling range? its always monsters, right? :-\

betrthanphil

get it in, EVERYONE IN THIS FORUM........STOP BEING NITS :P

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betrthanphil wrote: »

get it in, EVERYONE IN THIS FORUM........STOP BEING NITS :P

jdAA88

betrthanphil wrote: »

get it in, EVERYONE IN THIS FORUM........STOP BEING NITS :P

lmao! ya getter in

Unknown

well despite what u guys thought, I DID get it in

AK > QQ > JJ

This was just a weird spot for me because I thought it was a fold and it felt like a fold, but I was just wondering what u guys thought.

tbh I'm not sure how this helps me at all in the future lol, I'm gonna get in spots like this in the future and I'll scream "I'M NOT A NIT!!!!!" and mash the shit out of my click button to get it in, get pwnt, and then just shrug and think to myself "well at least I'm not a fucking nit"

Sigh...

betrthanphil

lol In micros a lot of idiots with limp call shoves like this with KJss or 77+. Just happened to not be the case here. Make the right moves and in the longrun.....you will start to hit your 2 outers

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betrthanphil wrote: »

lol In micros a lot of idiots with limp call shoves like this with KJss or 77+. Just happened to not be the case here. Make the right moves and in the longrun.....you will start to hit your 2 outers

Right, ill just start binking 2 outers!! sounds like a good plan to me

or is it bonking? I cant remember, I keep getting confused with that stuff :arghh:

trigs

betrthanphil wrote: »

get it in, EVERYONE IN THIS FORUM........STOP BEING NITS :P

give me some of your cash to play with and i'll jam any cards you want

GTA Poker

costanza wrote: »

Right, ill just start binking 2 outers!! sounds like a good plan to me

or is it bonking? I cant remember, I keep getting confused with that stuff :arghh:

It's 2012 man, time to bonk

Meistro

hero did not 3 bet he iso'd. this is a fold for almost 30xbb (unadjusted) vs an utg limper who COLD CALLED a bet and a raise.

Vekked

<20BB eff with JJ I'm not folding ever really. But yea meistro's right he iso'd didn't 3-bet

Gottaget

IMHO- the situation was all-in or fold - with 25bb back & a hand you know you losing and facing a 2 outer is a good laydown. UTG is likely beating the bb and you will move up in the $$ and have 25bb left over to find a better spot. Cash or rebuy-different story

I don't agree this is a nit laydown but even if it is-I think you need to make moves like this to be successful in MTT's. As much as I love to hate the infamous nit PH you can't argue with his MTT results.

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Gottaget wrote: »

IMHO- the situation was all-in or fold - with 25bb back & a hand you know you losing and facing a 2 outer is a good laydown. UTG is likely beating the bb and you will move up in the $$ and have 25bb left over to find a better spot. Cash or rebuy-different story

I don't agree this is a nit laydown but even if it is-I think you need to make moves like this to be successful in MTT's. As much as I love to hate the infamous nit PH you can't argue with his MTT results.

omg omg

Spoiler: ya but he's btp

Gottaget

omg omg

Spoiler: ya but he's btp

you think you are 'cool' because you come in with like quips here and there not saying anything ever meaningful

Thanks for the meaningful comment Darbday, but unfortunately I have no idea what that means. I am not a regular poster here and do not know all the inside jokes. Its exactly this type of crap, the same crap you complained about, that is the reason why I have ~70 posts in 5 years. (and/because of this my better half is not a fan)

I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that this was not a negative/bullying statement towards myself. I agree with many of the statements you made in regards to this forum being more friendly. I am merely pointing out that by quoting posts and giving no meaningful answer except an inside joke a new/low poster is not likely to not understand can come off in the exact way you claim to take issue with.

Apologies to mods & OP if not OK to respond to this here..please move if needed

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one of the posters in this threads name is 'betrthanphil (hellmuth), hope that explains it...if not pm

thx from commenting

thx for the benefit...glad your back

Gottaget

Thanks for the PM Darbady, again very much appreciated.

After re-reading my post just want to clarify that I am open to constructive criticism, and would not consider that a negative or bullying behaviour.

Sorry for the derail...carry on

Card Dead

I don't think either play is a bad one here. Personally, I'd fold because I hate JJ in this spot AND I'm a nit , but getting it in here is reasonable.

BB could make this play with 77 and up + AK/AQ and maybe even suited AJ/AT (people do some crazy things in these small MTTs).

I find the UTG limp-shove move narrows his range to small pp 22 thru 66 OR AA/KK. Depending on how much you've seen of his play, u can decide what's more likely.

So I asume that BB had AK and UTG had QQ, or am I just another really bad nit?

Unknown

Card Dead wrote: »

I don't think either play is a bad one here. Personally, I'd fold because I hate JJ in this spot AND I'm a nit , but getting it in here is reasonable.

BB could make this play with 77 and up + AK/AQ and maybe even suited AJ/AT (people do some crazy things in these small MTTs).

I find the UTG limp-shove move narrows his range to small pp 22 thru 66 OR AA/KK. Depending on how much you've seen of his play, u can decide what's more likely.

So I asume that BB had AK and UTG had QQ, or am I just another really bad nit?

yeah, BB had AK, UTG had QQ , mbn to wake up with monsters, they have really sick lives

woulda givven me a huuuge stack and cruise control, instead i was crippled to 10 beibers, and got it in pretty bad to end my misery :arghh:

thanx alot for the input all