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quick one....

UnknownUnknown
in MTT Strategy
is this bad or std.???


Poker Stars, $2.28 + $0.22 NL Hold'em Tournament, 25/50 Blinds, 8 Players


SB: 1,040
BB: 3,475
UTG: 3,025
UTG+1: 1,425
JodaB. (MP1): 1,742
MP2: 1,550
CO: 1,420
BTN: 2,465

Pre-Flop: (75) Aheartnormal.gif Theartnormal.gif dealt to JodaB. (MP1)
2 folds, JodaB. raises to 137, 3 folds, SB calls 112, BB calls 87

Flop: (411) 5diamondnormal.gif Kspadenormal.gif Jclubnormal.gif (3 Players)
SB checks, BB bets 100, JodaB. calls 100, SB folds

Turn: (611) 4heartnormal.gif (2 Players)
BB bets 100, JodaB. calls 100

River: (811) 2heartnormal.gif (2 Players)
BB bets 50, JodaB. calls 50

Comments

  • HobbesHobbes
    No need for a hero call, esp after the BB bets into you 2x

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  • Richard~Richard~
    don't ever fold here
  • betrthanphilbetrthanphil
    Id like the flat more otf if there was a heart. Then give you option to raise turn if heart comes. If you calling flop and bricking turn you should raise or fold.
  • UnknownUnknown
    betrthanphil wrote: »
    Id like the flat more otf if there was a heart.
    yes this for sure
    betrthanphil wrote: »
    If you calling flop and bricking turn you should raise or fold.
    I can agree with that....and fwiw I don't think raising will be profitable...almost always has top or 2nd pair weak kicker...and will call a raise

    but i am getting 7 to 1 and i have 7 good outs usually....some implied odds but some reverse implied odds...and also sometimes a high is good...

    but i felt like i should fold at some point..
  • UBetIFoldUBetIFold
    As played, it seems as though he is super weak and scared, trying to throw out blocker bets, maybe bottom or mid pair, I would fold the turn or raise, Ace high is almost never good there
  • Richard~Richard~
    if you fold river you'll never know what's going through the retards head
  • UnknownUnknown
    Richard~ wrote: »
    if you fold river you'll never know what's going through the retards head
    No i think hes saying A high isn't an added factor in calling the turn
    UBetIFold wrote: »
    Ace high is almost never good there
    its a small factor....:p
  • Richard~Richard~
    darbday wrote: »
    No i think hes saying A high isn't an added factor in calling the turn


    what did you just reply to ? <.<
  • UnknownUnknown
    Richard~ wrote: »
    what did you just reply to ? <.<
    i didn't think anyone was suggest folding the river....?
  • Richard~Richard~
    ic, but I'm not sure how you can justify folding turn vs a weak range getting 7:1 and having nut outs

    Even vs what we percieve to be the top fo his range we have 7 outs
  • UnknownUnknown
    Lmao donking at you all the way....

    U know I snap reraise atc a couple streets at them because their range is so weak

    Shoving air here can't be a bad play either, he's never calling
  • UnknownUnknown
    costanza wrote: »

    U know I snap reraise atc a couple streets at them because their range is so weak
    prob a leak...
    costanza wrote: »
    Shoving air here can't be a bad play either
    prob a giant leak...

    costanza wrote: »
    he's never calling
    wed be potentially bluffing a call station who we know has something, and we'd be doing it with zero equity
  • betrthanphilbetrthanphil
    I dont think snap raising atc vs donk bets are a leak.....maybe against a reg but definatly not against a reg. Vekked and I were talking about it yesterday. Almost all regs wont give up vs donk bets.....biggest leak would be to flat the whole way vs donk bets :p.....dont take the :p to mean Im kidding cause im very serious :p.....
  • UnknownUnknown
    betrthanphil wrote: »
    I dont think snap raising atc vs donk bets are a leak.....maybe against a reg but definatly not against a random. Vekked and I were talking about it yesterday. Almost all regs wont give up vs donk bets.....biggest leak would be to flat the whole way vs donk bets :p.....dont take the :p to mean Im kidding cause im very serious :p.....
    im just saying raisings and jamming are prob not a good idea in this spot..as for the rest i couldn't make sense of your witchery

    edit: i think made sense of it
  • betrthanphilbetrthanphil
    how is calling down 3 streets better than raising on the flop or turn?
  • UnknownUnknown
    betrthanphil wrote: »
    how is calling down 3 streets better than raising on the flop or turn?
    well i hadn't decided it is...not fully convinced my line isn't a leak...

    But, his range is quite elastic? we have to risk to much with too little equity, im not fully sure tho....
  • betrthanphilbetrthanphil
    well I am sure. :D
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