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Late night 55
Replayer is messed so sn are shown
read on initial raiser are hes a SN with hidden stats playing solid but no real showdowns. Has been pretty std. but I expect him to loosen up and try to take over a little as we approach the final two tables
only other note is that there are a few strong players at the table 2 left to act behind initial raiser..
But none of that matters too much, here i know i can profitably shove but i have about 24bbs and was wondering if i can flat or 3bet/call ?
How much deeper should i be to flat if i need to be deeper?
PokerStars Hand #73873054873: Tournament #555011086, $50+$5 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVII (1500/3000) - 2012/01/14 23:14:42 PT [2012/01/15 2:14:42 ET]
Table '555011086 36' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: paxaflay40 (58295 in chips)
Seat 2: slayerv1fan (168944 in chips)
Seat 4: VC VEM!! (80878 in chips)
Seat 5: forboon (70824 in chips)
Seat 6: Rocketmist (63940 in chips)
Seat 7: andrianov (92278 in chips)
Seat 8: ElMonteDamas (145319 in chips)
Seat 9: KiwiVic (102444 in chips)
paxaflay40: posts the ante 300
slayerv1fan: posts the ante 300
VC VEM!!: posts the ante 300
forboon: posts the ante 300
Rocketmist: posts the ante 300
andrianov: posts the ante 300
ElMonteDamas: posts the ante 300
KiwiVic: posts the ante 300
forboon: posts small blind 1500
Rocketmist: posts big blind 3000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to forboon [Qd Ad]
andrianov: folds
ElMonteDamas: folds
KiwiVic: folds
paxaflay40: folds
slayerv1fan: raises 3175 to 6175
VC VEM!!: folds
forboon: ???
read on initial raiser are hes a SN with hidden stats playing solid but no real showdowns. Has been pretty std. but I expect him to loosen up and try to take over a little as we approach the final two tables
only other note is that there are a few strong players at the table 2 left to act behind initial raiser..
But none of that matters too much, here i know i can profitably shove but i have about 24bbs and was wondering if i can flat or 3bet/call ?
How much deeper should i be to flat if i need to be deeper?
PokerStars Hand #73873054873: Tournament #555011086, $50+$5 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVII (1500/3000) - 2012/01/14 23:14:42 PT [2012/01/15 2:14:42 ET]
Table '555011086 36' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: paxaflay40 (58295 in chips)
Seat 2: slayerv1fan (168944 in chips)
Seat 4: VC VEM!! (80878 in chips)
Seat 5: forboon (70824 in chips)
Seat 6: Rocketmist (63940 in chips)
Seat 7: andrianov (92278 in chips)
Seat 8: ElMonteDamas (145319 in chips)
Seat 9: KiwiVic (102444 in chips)
paxaflay40: posts the ante 300
slayerv1fan: posts the ante 300
VC VEM!!: posts the ante 300
forboon: posts the ante 300
Rocketmist: posts the ante 300
andrianov: posts the ante 300
ElMonteDamas: posts the ante 300
KiwiVic: posts the ante 300
forboon: posts small blind 1500
Rocketmist: posts big blind 3000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to forboon [Qd Ad]
andrianov: folds
ElMonteDamas: folds
KiwiVic: folds
paxaflay40: folds
slayerv1fan: raises 3175 to 6175
VC VEM!!: folds
forboon: ???
Comments
35 or more bb's and we can probably flat it for the price...doesn't change our stack that (as)much at that point..
definitely interested in better educated opinions on this spot..lol
My initial thought about the hand is that this villian will be 4 bet shoving a good amount of air, esp if you have been up to your typical batman ways... 3 bet call imo.
but we aren't really deep enough to appear like we would 3bet fold....and i haven't made a 3bet yet....
actually another piece of info was i just doubled up bvb calling the sb with k3s.....so really i haven't done much for awhile my image is tight otherwise..
i dunno here its prob a pretty std. jam but i wondered how much more chips i need to do something else.....
Well, its his small raise that worrys me. Thats what im talking about.A pretty useless raise truthfully. Is he looking to be called or reraised? But then again if he has a high pair and gets called and gets burned on the flop,then his small raise was a shitty play. So ya, tough situation....
small raise is standard play from any reg these days I think..doesn't define his range at all imo....but I think he is opening here with a much wider range than most of "us" give him...When I say "us" I mean non regs at these stakes. We are definitely (way?) ahead of his range..but I just wonder if we do flat...is he calling often enough post flop when we are ahead...or like darb says...is he committed if he hits? I don't know if that makes sense...it's still early in BC...lol
I just feel we don't have a big enough stack to "play poker". Maybe I am still not playing enough levels...
as far as being ahead we certainly are..and even more so knowing we have extra chips from fold equity
we're certainly not going to 'play poker' but we can consider a stop and go type play ....which i somehow didn't realize
and i know were 'too short' but def gotta discussions considerations and what ifs...
I guess i take that back....I said that his raise was what worried me so I guess I worded that wrong. Even if he has AA tho,does he really want to take the chance on having 3 callers? And letting them see the flop? I would put him on A10 or KJ or something like that. I still shove here.
This imo
I know but you never told me what he had and im sure a few others would like to know too....