9th Annual Alberta Poker Championship - Casino Edmonton 2012

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Sunday Jan 15 7:00 PM $225+25+10 Super Satellite
Tuesday Jan 17 6:00 PM $500+50+10 PLO
Wednesday Jan 18 6:00 PM $225+25+10 Super Satellite
Thursday Jan 19 6:00 PM $500+50+10 NLH Day 1A
Friday Jan 20 2:00 PM $500+50+10 NLH Day 1B
Saturday Jan 21 2:00 PM $2000+250+10 NLH
Sunday Jan 22 -12:00 PM $500+50+10 NLH Day 2
Sunday Jan 22 -2:00 PM $300+30+10 NLH

They really expect people to show up for a $2k tourney in the middle of winter in Edmonton? The rake for the 2k is pretty ridiculous. As the buy in increases, the rake should decrease....especially since the tournament will probably take less table/dealer hours than the $550. Even if you sign up early and get back the $100 in meal card...$100 cash >>> $100 meal card.
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  • UnknownUnknown
    i agree with the 2k event, i doubt they will get many, they should put it to a 1k with less rake
  • GTA PokerGTA Poker
    What else is there to do in Edmonton in the winter? Degens gonna degen, no?

    Why are you complaining about the rake on the 2k when it is a higher percentage on the $225 and the $300?

    Does the difference between a 12% and 13.5% rake make that much of a difference to you?
  • T8urmoneyT8urmoney
    windbreaker wrote: »
    Even if you sign up early and get back the $100 in meal card...$100 cash >>> $100 meal card.

    They normally serve a buffet for each event, I assume they're changing that.

    As for the 2k event, agree about the rake.....but that's always been done here unfortunately.

    Years past, it used to be a 1.5k as the standard main event.....the last couple years down to 1k. I'm not surprised to see them try something different.

    I think the turnout will be decent, as in general, someone who comes for a 1 or 1.5k, will still come for a 2k. I wouldn't buy in directly, but will try to satty in, same as I'd do for a 1 or 1.5k.

    But let's get back to the important part......there's a PLO, and it's not on the Sunday (I think that's a first)
  • masterplanmasterplan
    Sucks I won't be in Alberta for this.
  • windbreakerwindbreaker
    So the $500+50+10 has a 10% rake, but a buy-in 4 times higher has a 12.5% rake. Does this make any sense to anybody? Especially when they make the $500 a two day event (1A/1B + final day), which will require more time/effort than a $2k.

    If the pokerrooms want to expand and increase traffic overtime, they must make the players feel wanted/appreciated. The difference in rake does make a difference to me.

    I don't like feeling getting ripped off. I don't care if it's for a $1 or $10000. I hate that feeling. I'm not going to support an event if I feel this way. I can afford it and I'm sure I have an huge edge in the tournament, but I'll spend my money elsewhere if I feel this way.

    GTA Poker wrote: »
    What else is there to do in Edmonton in the winter? Degens gonna degen, no?

    Why are you complaining about the rake on the 2k when it is a higher percentage on the $225 and the $300?

    Does the difference between a 12% and 13.5% rake make that much of a difference to you?
  • GTA PokerGTA Poker
    windbreaker wrote: »
    So the $500+50+10 has a 10% rake, but a buy-in 4 times higher has a 12.5% rake. Does this make any sense to anybody? Especially when they make the $500 a two day event (1A/1B + final day), which will require more time/effort than a $2k.

    If the pokerrooms want to expand and increase traffic overtime, they must make the players feel wanted/appreciated. The difference in rake does make a difference to me.

    I don't like feeling getting ripped off. I don't care if it's for a $1 or $10000. I hate that feeling. I'm not going to support an event if I feel this way. I can afford it and I'm sure I have an huge edge in the tournament, but I'll spend my money elsewhere if I feel this way.

    If you can't calculate the rake % you probably don't have a huge edge :0)
  • windbreakerwindbreaker
    I'm ignoring bonus chips...as they're suppose to be for the dealers...and should be considered differently from portion the house's takes. Regardless, your comments are unfounded.
  • livepokeredmontonftwlivepokeredmontonftw
    hopefully they get some 2/5 NLHE running during this series. I dont really play tournies but always look forward to tourny series for softer and bigger games
  • T8urmoneyT8urmoney
    windbreaker wrote: »
    I'm ignoring bonus chips...as they're suppose to be for the dealers...and should be considered differently from portion the house's takes. Regardless, your comments are unfounded.

    I would almost bet that it's a typo, prolly should be $150 instead of $250.....I'll confirm next time I hit Yellowhead
  • T8urmoneyT8urmoney
    T8urmoney wrote: »
    I would almost bet that it's a typo, prolly should be $150 instead of $250.....I'll confirm next time I hit Yellowhead

    Apparently not a typo? Seems rediculous, but that is the rake.

    I'll try to question someone of authority next time there.
  • GTA PokerGTA Poker
    livepokeredmontonftw wrote: »
    hopefully they get some 2/5 NLHE running during this series. I dont really play tournies but always look forward to tourny series for softer and bigger games

    Had a softtttt 2/5 tonight at YHead.
  • jontmjontm
    Text Room manger, just to clarify, the $100 meal card can also be $100 towards hotel, which is as good as cash, so the rake would be $150 (in theory) for those that are serious about coming in from out of town. Meal card is not worthless either for those that are local.

    I get that just charging $150 would be better Recieved, but they obviously trying to encourage action through incentive it's a better effort than many other venues offer.

    WSOP gives $10 meal card right?

    18,000 plus 2000 add-on for $10 starting chips, 45 minute levels for first 3, then 60. This 1k typically ran 14-16 hours... this will have a ton of play.

    Trophy and bracelet for both the $500 and $2000 events.

    Buffet/meal will be provided for all events except the super-sats (which will award seats to 2k instead of 1 $500 and 1 $1000 as previously)

    So yes, bit of extra juice, but all the elements of a first class event are there.
  • T8urmoneyT8urmoney
    jontm wrote: »
    Text Room manger, just to clarify, the $100 meal card can also be $100 towards hotel, which is as good as cash, so the rake would be $150 (in theory) for those that are serious about coming in from out of town. Meal card is not worthless either for those that are local.

    I get that just charging $150 would be better Recieved, but they obviously trying to encourage action through incentive it's a better effort than many other venues offer.

    WSOP gives $10 meal card right?

    18,000 plus 2000 add-on for $10 starting chips, 45 minute levels for first 3, then 60. This 1k typically ran 14-16 hours... this will have a ton of play.

    Trophy and bracelet for both the $500 and $2000 events.

    Buffet/meal will be provided for all events except the super-sats (which will award seats to 2k instead of 1 $500 and 1 $1000 as previously)

    So yes, bit of extra juice, but all the elements of a first class event are there.

    John, any attempt to rationalize this rake is futile.

    The bottom line is, they are charging more for rake in a 2K event than they are for a 500 event percentage wise.

    This is literally one of the stupidest things I've seen a casino do.
  • jontmjontm
    I won't bother trying then....you know I like the management and don't find this any different than the heft juice Deerfoot charges on their Deepstacks...with out the possible rebate Or other perks.

    On a side note, guess they have had steady 25/50 action for last few weeks, so safe to assume the juicy cash games some are looking for should be around...

    I am planning on coming up in April again, for Yellowhead, tradition now.

    Will keep an eye on this one to see how it turns out though
  • jontmjontm
    This might chap some asses a little more but for any sng specialists;

    A 5k + $250 event has been added on request by the 25/50 crowd

    Same structure as 2k, better rake. Monday the 16th at 6pm

    Won't see a ton of players but more money in middle is welcome
  • jontmjontm
    Just found out 5k is PLO not hold'em...maybe T8urmoney needs a new BAP? ;p
  • livepokeredmontonftwlivepokeredmontonftw
    seems like some big cash games have started (above my BR).
  • GTA PokerGTA Poker
    livepokeredmontonftw wrote: »
    seems like some big cash games have started (above my BR).

    where? this hasn't even started yet
  • livepokeredmontonftwlivepokeredmontonftw
    25/50 games recently at Argyll. Today there was a 10/25 PLO at Argyll
  • Xiph0idXiph0id
    Heading to Argyl tonight to clean up at the cash games.
    Love the tourneys!
  • livepokeredmontonftwlivepokeredmontonftw
    Xiph0id wrote: »
    Heading to Argyl tonight to clean up at the cash games.
    Love the tourneys!

    I am going to Argyll tommorow morning to play CG. Cya there Xiph0id if u decide to do an all night session.
  • Xiph0idXiph0id
    livepokeredmontonftw wrote: »
    I am going to Argyll tommorow morning to play CG. Cya there Xiph0id if u decide to do an all night session.

    Doubtful but maybe I'll stop by tomorrow.
  • GTA PokerGTA Poker
    Xiph0id wrote: »
    Doubtful but maybe I'll stop by tomorrow.

    Do you ever play at YH?
  • Xiph0idXiph0id
    Used to until I moved south.
  • GTA PokerGTA Poker
    Ah...probably don't know you then
  • livepokeredmontonftwlivepokeredmontonftw
    Xiph0id, what games did Argyll run today?
  • Xiph0idXiph0id
    2/5 PLO 1/2 NLHE and satellites.
    Still playing cash. Lots of tables open.
    The next week it should get bigger.
  • livepokeredmontonftwlivepokeredmontonftw
    Xiph0id wrote: »
    2/5 PLO 1/2 NLHE and satellites.
    Still playing cash. Lots of tables open.
    The next week it should get bigger.
    is there any names on the 2/5 NLHE interest list?
  • Xiph0idXiph0id
    livepokeredmontonftw wrote: »
    is there any names on the 2/5 NLHE interest list?

    Only 2 on the 2/5 NLHE interest list
  • GTA PokerGTA Poker
    There's been 2/5 NL at YH quite regularly lately
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