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Live fun.....def a btp question....
actually im not down with live pokerz.....anyways:
....you can imagine my image fairy tightest as its still early no antes......ive won some pots by bluff catch and making small value bets that the better player are noticing but no one really else knows whats going on....I may have raise folded once or twice in late position to the sb when villain was bb.....
hero is utg (10 handed) with about 70bbs.....villain mp has me covered......
i raise ako to 2.5bbs.....villain raise to about 10 times the bb......lp flats....action on hero.......???
initial raiser is an older guy 45ish but not the real nitty type....looks like hes been playing 30 years and plays not bad....i don't expect any bluff in his range obv......
i don't feel like i can continue past a four bet.....and i hate flatting oop....but surely folding is worse?
....you can imagine my image fairy tightest as its still early no antes......ive won some pots by bluff catch and making small value bets that the better player are noticing but no one really else knows whats going on....I may have raise folded once or twice in late position to the sb when villain was bb.....
hero is utg (10 handed) with about 70bbs.....villain mp has me covered......
i raise ako to 2.5bbs.....villain raise to about 10 times the bb......lp flats....action on hero.......???
initial raiser is an older guy 45ish but not the real nitty type....looks like hes been playing 30 years and plays not bad....i don't expect any bluff in his range obv......
i don't feel like i can continue past a four bet.....and i hate flatting oop....but surely folding is worse?
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Where and when was this? Casino Donkament? Are there really fast blind raises, doubling every time? or is it a snooze fest where you can wait?
If its a ridiculous structure and the blinds are doubling in 5 hands, I ship. If they go up a lot slower, I flat and CR or CF depending on flop. I think you're getting called 100% of the time when you ship though.
Yet you can flat and CF and still have 60bbs left, which is not bad provided the blinds are doubling next level.
I do this deep. Range definition I think is better than a fold here, and certainly better than playing 3 handed oop.
but i flatted because of the third caller we're fairly deep and i have some skill advantage....but i didn't feel comfortable with any decision....like those aren't good reasons but i don't feel i could 4bet/call .......
so we 4bet fold then? turns ak into a bluff?
Pretty much when we get shovelled.
I think theres alot of value though when midage competent villain types (who arent going to 5bet AQ/AK, 1010/JJ) flat us here - which is gonna happen a ton and we use our skill in bigger pots.
do we know by now i flatted and donked flop with air and check folded turn ;p
If youve been super active and villain is truly competent we could click back here and possibly induce.
This situation doesnt sound like it though.
mind you i don't have a lot of exp with inducing....without skill advantage tho...i wonder if its a fold....but is flatting worse than folding?
the thing about four betting is we're only getting folds from aq i think.....and were bloating pot oop vs ak/jj+ or so.....i think i can take the pot sometimes with an a or a k on the flop but i don't think i get any real value and i think i loose a lot of times when he has ak ip...
off to cash game
I dont know about that. You have control of the hand now. Donk all flops.
If all of these things are correct then I feel : 4b folding < folding < calling
Shove.
Adds variance free 33% to your stack more often than you'd think. Hit a 3 outer or win a race as much as you'd think.
I kinda feel i get a better sense of people live to help me make this decision.