Gross spot in the 45 man

Hobbes · October 2011

Final table with 4 left.
I am second in chips with one guy that is very short.
Villain has been running approx 15/11 at the final table and has not gotten out of hand.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 3.5 Tournament, 800/1600 Blinds 75 Ante (4 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button (t27335)
SB (t3776)
Hero (BB) (t19017)
UTG (t17372)

Hero's M: 7.04

Preflop: Hero is BB with 10

, 10

UTG bets t17297 (All-In), 2 folds
Hero ?

Total pot: t4300

Unknown · October 2011

ICM fold, unfortunately.

Unknown · October 2011

gettin daize wrote: »

ICM fold, unfortunately.

...is what you would guess if you didn't know how to use the nash calculator...^-^

Unknown · October 2011

this isn't a bubble sit. so icm isn't going to have strong effects even with a shorty like that....

even if icm said to fold im sure its a call .........im not even making any considerations when i get this hand just snap calling.....

JohnnieH · October 2011

Nobody else thinks he's stealing?

It is a gross hand. You win, you're in really good shape. Lose, you're crippled.

I would play for the win and call, but I would have to think about it.

Hobbes · October 2011

JohnnieH wrote: »

Nobody else thinks he's stealing?
.

Not when he's been running 15/11.
Bad player, so I have to give him some credit for a hand here.

Wetts1012 · October 2011

I play around 15/11, and I would call against me.

Hobbes · October 2011

It's at the low end for ICM. but if you take out AA/KK then it becomes a call.

Unknown · October 2011

Hobbes wrote: »

It's at the low end for ICM. but if you take out AA/KK then it becomes a call.

I don't think you can take those out...but none the less icm is just a helping consideration, theres enough room for error that if its close its surely a call

HoldemResources.net: Beta ICM Nash Calculator

if you adjust the utg range to 11% 55+, A8s+, Ato+, KQ.....TT is a call.....don't think we would assume hes really any tighter.... (any wider and its even more of a call)

Unknown · October 2011

I ran this hand through nash

Villian is shoving 18% of hands here, we are calling 5%

TT's a call

Unknown · October 2011

gettin daize wrote: »

Villian is shoving 18%

no no....villain isn't not shoving what nash tells him too.....we don't know what villain shoves...

Unknown · October 2011

darbday wrote: »

no no....villain isn't not shoving what nash tells him too.....we don't know what villain shoves....

Im a noob at this thing

:mad:

djgolfcan · October 2011

If you are playing for 3rd, fold.

There are too many reasons to call here, first of all, villain could be using the short stack to push wider, knowing other players will fold to move up the ladder.

Second, A-rag does this often enough that its a call.

Winning this hand gives you the chip lead, with a short stack still in, essentially putting you heads up.

trigs · October 2011

i probably call, but it sucks.

Richard~ · October 2011

I fistpump call most of the time lol, he's shoving 10 BB's and we have a chance to lock the tournament up ^^'

betrthanphil · October 2011

first pump call as well. Usually big stacks will use the fear of the shortty to steal like this. All smaller pairs are in his range. There are way more hands hes shipping here that you have rapped then hands that have you crushed. SNAP!