Casino ABS Edmonton & Yellowhead New Re-entry Policy

jontm

Both Casino ABS Edmonton and Casino Yellowhead will no longer be accepting multiple re-entry by the same player in events over $200.

They will allow each individual one re-entry, which I think is fair and necessary to build the best prize-pools in Alberta.

I have a ton of reasons for believing that this is the best approach on our current poker landscape, love to hear others thoughts and feedback on the move

JimmyHo

reminds me of the Daniel N. multiple rebuy event that he ended up winning. Think he had 20 rebuys to build up the chips on his starting table.

my bad, he holds the record for 48 rebuys in a single WSOP event:

http://www.pokerlistings.com/rebuys-bad-hellmuth-worse-negreanu-talks-wsop-35998

windbreaker

The $200 stipulation seems pretty random - I don't follow the logic behind this number, aside from that most of their 'majors' are $300+.

I really have no problems with whatever structure they decided to go with, since every player that enters the tournament are all following the same rules. Just let everyone know before hand and it's fine.

It's probably best to have a mixture of structures for various events. As an example if they were to offer an elite tournament once a year (like the WCOOP ME, WSOP ME, WPT $25k, etc.), they should make that a true freeze out. For other smaller series, they should offer different options. (Multi-day re-entry, same day re-entry, true rebuy, capped re-entry, etc)....and find out which one players like the most and have the majority of tournaments offered in that format.

From playing experience, many of the players that re-enter multiple times in these tournaments, are making negative $EV mistakes. I really have no problem with them re-entering 5+ times by getting it in with ton of marginal hands. Most of these players are only adding value to the prize pool, while greatly over estimating their edge in the tournament. I do think it's an issue when players bust out and allowed to re-enter and sit in the same seat. It should be a random seating assignment.

For most players, I think these new rules will have little to no effect on them. For the few that rebuy multiple times, it just forces them to play it more like a freezeout. For the few that hate how players re-enter a ton, now maybe it gives them more opportunities to come out to play.

jontm

We made many of the same points in our arguments/opinions. Mine is on my Facebook, been quite of bit of back and forth. Most love the decision, it's more about bringing the players back. There are a few that have stoped playing these (a prior Sunday Warm up winner and top 10 online AB player for one) that would agree with exactly what you said, as would I, but it does mean that yes some "loose money" while be sacrificed to try to accommodate the "quality" of play that the majority of players want to see in championships.

So with that, there will also be some "scared or dead" money that don't see the value of "loose" money should replace or surpass what the "shooters" would be in.

As for the $200, they also run a monthly Deepstack that is $300. As far as the smaller events go, they are pretty much for entertainment anyway, so players are going to have to accept reloading at will.

T8urmoney

I know some people are strongly opposed to re-entries (remember, re-entry far different from re-buys, as you will not be seated in the same seat, or, at least, should not be).

It simply just adds to the prize pool. The only guys generally re-entering, are the shooters / gamblers. The players you generally need to worry about, won't be re-entering too often.

Re-entries allows the bad players to spend extra $$ into my prize pool....I just don't see that as a bad thing. And when you suffer an occasional bad beat, now you can-reenter instead of going to play the dreaded 'cash game'.

GTA Poker

T8urmoney wrote: »

I know some people are strongly opposed to re-entries (remember, re-entry far different from re-buys, as you will not be seated in the same seat, or, at least, should not be).

It simply just adds to the prize pool. The only guys generally re-entering, are the shooters / gamblers. The players you generally need to worry about, won't be re-entering too often.

Re-entries allows the bad players to spend extra $$ into my prize pool....I just don't see that as a bad thing. And when you suffer an occasional bad beat, now you can-reenter instead of going to play the dreaded 'cash game'.

Please play the cash game:)

T8urmoney

On a side note.......who's going to be the first online site to try this?

Multi-entry on FTP was similar.......but not the same.

Can only be a matter of time IMO. As a PLO guy, when I bust a tourney early, there isn't one of similar size for usually 1-2 hours....now, if I could just re-enter?