bet sizing yuh....

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This one i don't like my flop bet because it leaves me commited with a small turn shove left....


Poker Stars, $50 + $5 NL Hold'em Tournament, 25/50 Blinds, 9 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

Yodabatman (CO): 2,523
BTN: 2,900
SB: 5,914
BB: 2,405
UTG: 3,955
UTG+1: 4,044
UTG+2: 3,530
MP1: 3,818
MP2: 4,311

Pre-Flop: (75) A K dealt to Yodabatman (CO)
3 folds, MP1 raises to 150, MP2 calls 150, Yodabatman raises to 450, 3 folds, MP1 calls 300, MP2 calls 300

Flop: (1,425) K 7 T (3 Players)
MP1 checks, MP2 checks, Yodabatman bets 1,000

DrTyore

God bless you!

I like the re-raise size, and you should be happy with the flop bet. Either of those guys re-raise you all in, you snap push.

Mark

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DrTyore wrote: »

God bless you!

I like the re-raise size, and you should be happy with the flop bet. Either of those guys re-raise you all in, you snap push.

Mark

Unknown

lol

DrTyore

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You're welcome?

Mark

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DrTyore wrote: »

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You're welcome?

Mark

your welcome for that awesome pic.....but theres still something up here i mean of course we have to call a shove but if they call it leaves us 1k to jam into like 3.5k or something.....im think 950 or something on the flop....

DrTyore

darbday wrote: »

your welcome for that awesome pic.....but theres still something up here i mean of course we have to call a shove but if they call it leaves us 1k to jam into like 3.5k or something.....im think 950 or something on the flop....

No! Bad darb! BAD!

You're essentially saying that the higher bet amounts is giving them really good odds to call on the turn for the river card, but your previous poor betting sizing gives them really good odds to call preflop, flop, turn, and river.

Make them make the biggest mistakes possible.

Mark

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DrTyore wrote: »

No! Bad darb! BAD!

You're essentially saying that the higher bet amounts is giving them really good odds to call on the turn for the river card, but your previous poor betting sizing gives them really good odds to call preflop, flop, turn, and river.

Make them make the biggest mistakes possible.

Mark

not really arguing that but im more just trying to point the awkward unrealistic bet i leave myself...i dunno maybe cause i can't be bluffing or something.....but whatever ill find some more with some questionable bet sizing...

DennisG

darbday wrote: »

not really arguing that but im more just trying to point the awkward unrealistic bet i leave myself...i dunno maybe cause i can't be bluffing or something.....but whatever ill find some more with some questionable bet sizing...

I was kind of thinking the same type thing...it appears you are committed on the flop bet..(which of course we are)...but if you bet out 900-975, it might make them think you can fold..it just looks smaller, while still giving pretty much the same odds.

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DennisG wrote: »

I was kind of thinking the same type thing...it appears you are committed on the flop bet..(which of course we are)...but if you bet out 900-975, it might make them think you can fold..it just looks smaller, while still giving pretty much the same odds.

ya and the problem is im already giving great odds to a 2nd caller in a multiway pot.

DennisG

darbday wrote: »

ya and the problem is im already giving great odds to a 2nd caller in a multiway pot.

I would think you are only getting 1 caller with a cbet (and the check-check) of that size, and if you get the second one, he probably wasn't going anywhere anyway...regardless of bet sizing.

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DennisG wrote: »

I would think you are only getting 1 caller with a cbet (and the check-check) of that size, and if you get the second one, he probably wasn't going anywhere anyway...regardless of bet sizing.

maybe i shoulda just shoved...:-\

DennisG

darbday wrote: »

maybe i shoulda just shoved...:-\

There is that..

edit-but, I like the draws/worse K's coming along for the ride...triple up if we hold.

probably lost to a set of tens eh? lol

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DennisG wrote: »

There is that..

edit-but, I like the draws/worse K's coming along for the ride...triple up if we hold.

probably lost to a set of tens eh? lol

or maybe my 3bet size was just to big...???

or not big enough...

DennisG

darbday wrote: »

or not big enough...

600ish 3bet size leaves a nice pot size bet on flop...yeah, I think I like this more...and if our flop isn't any good, we still have 1800 behind....I am curious what the Wekkephils have to say about this..

jdAA88

I bet 700 on the flop.

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jdAA88 wrote: »

I bet 700 on the flop.

sounds good too...

anyrag_dipscat

Thing is...with your bet and a single call, the pot is 3,425 on a call of 1K, which means about 3.5:1 odds. If either villain has QJ or 98 and therefore an OESD, they've got almost good enough odds to limp along to see the turn. And if MP1 limps with a weaker K but MP2 does have the OESD, for sure he's got the odds to call. Not saying that means your bet sizes are wrong, but it's something to consider.

EDIT: or J9 for a double gutshot, which would be hell for you and the other caller, if any.

Milo

What do you think of this line . . .

PF raise it to 600, rather than 450. My reasoning is that you want to go slightly higher than just 3x the original raise in order to isolate said raiser.

Hopefully you are now HU on the flop with a stack of ~1,900 and a pot of either ~1400 or ~1800, depending on whether 1 or both call your 600.

To me this sets you up to shove on what can only be described as a green light flop, no?

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Milo wrote: »

What do you think of this line . . .

PF raise it to 600, rather than 450. My reasoning is that you want to go slightly higher than just 3x the original raise in order to isolate said raiser.

Hopefully you are now HU on the flop with a stack of ~1,900 and a pot of either ~1400 or ~1800, depending on whether 1 or both call your 600.

To me this sets you up to shove on what can only be described as a green light flop, no?

ya i think im down with that...prob better that way....

DennisG

DennisG wrote: »

600ish 3bet size leaves a nice pot size bet on flop...yeah, I think I like this more...and if our flop isn't any good, we still have 1800 behind....

Milo wrote: »

What do you think of this line . . .

PF raise it to 600, rather than 450. My reasoning is that you want to go slightly higher than just 3x the original raise in order to isolate said raiser.

Hopefully you are now HU on the flop with a stack of ~1,900 and a pot of either ~1400 or ~1800, depending on whether 1 or both call your 600.

To me this sets you up to shove on what can only be described as a green light flop, no?

copycat. I like it!

Milo

In all seriousness, I completely missed your post, Dennis. But, guilty as charged, I guess . . .