Another Bubble Hand

actyperactyper
in MTT Strategy
Hand for Hand, $109 turbo. Be greedy or fold?

PokerStars Game #64318999823: Tournament #428011005, $100+$9 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVI (350/700) - 2011/07/08 21:54:02 ET
Table '428011005 15' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: latte 11 (6625 in chips)
Seat 2: actyper (8295 in chips)
Seat 3: chaosul (10704 in chips)
Seat 4: doct manopla (4308 in chips)
Seat 5: brett_threat (11479 in chips)
Seat 7: Birips (47291 in chips)
Seat 8: skufff (12511 in chips)
Seat 9: llindeberg_ (6385 in chips)
latte 11: posts the ante 85
actyper: posts the ante 85
chaosul: posts the ante 85
doct manopla: posts the ante 85
brett_threat: posts the ante 85
Birips: posts the ante 85
skufff: posts the ante 85
llindeberg_: posts the ante 85
actyper: posts small blind 350
chaosul: posts big blind 700
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to actyper [7h Jd]
doct manopla: folds
brett_threat: folds
Birips: folds
skufff: folds
llindeberg_: folds
latte 11: folds
actyper:

Comments

  • UnknownUnknown
    snap
  • actyperactyper
    crackle and pop?
  • UnknownUnknown
    actyper wrote: »
    crackle and pop?
    you have aces....and it is NOT the bubble....
  • DennisGDennisG
    Jamarama for me. 1700 in the pot...over 20% of our stack..


    but I am a known spewtard. ;)
  • Richard~Richard~
    How many players left? I don't hate a fold with like 8+ tables left, I think it's optimal if villain is calling a decent range
  • actyperactyper
    37 players left, 36 get paid. I'm prob in 27-30th place.
  • Richard~Richard~
    DennisG wrote: »
    Jamarama for me. 1700 in the pot...over 20% of our stack..


    but I am a known spewtard. ;)

    you might want to redo that math ^^'
  • Richard~Richard~
    actyper wrote: »
    37 players left, 36 get paid. I'm prob in 27-30th place.

    I probably still fold, the value of the chips you gain here needs to be greater than the value of your almost guaranteed itm finish, I havn't done the math but I don't really see that happening. BvB shoves are marginal enough as it is
  • UnknownUnknown
    Richard~ wrote: »
    I probably still fold, the value of the chips you gain here needs to be greater than the value of your almost guaranteed itm finish, I havn't done the math but I don't really see that happening. BvB shoves are marginal enough as it is
    i was thinking bigger field as far as the bubble situation but i still think i push and don't do that math....man i gotta start doing the math.
  • VekkedVekked
    Richard~ wrote: »
    BvB shoves are marginal enough as it is

    ?

    I think I fold on the direct bubble. I feel like ICM would dictate that given how close this is, but I'm no ICM wiz.
  • UnknownUnknown
    Vekked wrote: »
    ?

    I think I fold on the direct bubble. I feel like ICM would dictate that given how close this is, but I'm no ICM wiz.
    do you fold if there bubbles is like 200 people left?
  • VekkedVekked
    darbday wrote: »
    do you fold if there bubbles is like 200 people left?

    hmm, good Q, probably not
  • actyperactyper
    What if u were bb what do u think u call with?
  • UnknownUnknown
    Vekked wrote: »
    hmm, good Q, probably not

    do you fold if your 12 tabling? do you know when the money bubble is? :confused:
  • Richard~Richard~
    I mean't that bluffing BvB is marginal with this stack. If BB is bad he'll call like 20-25% so our net worth will be like

    (7x85+8295+700) x 0,75 +
    (2x8295+6x85) x 0,25 x 0,35 =
    8752

    so we gain like 3/4 BB, normally a big edge but on the bubble it's meh, ICM diaster
  • VekkedVekked
    darbday wrote: »
    do you fold if your 12 tabling? do you know when the money bubble is? :confused:

    I haven't folded my SB with <20BB since the 80s. I'm 24.
  • Richard~Richard~
    lol, did a bunch more math, bluffing bvb isn't marginal, we're talking way bigger edges than i ever imagined if I'm doing this right

    apparently shoving 27o is quite profitable vs a 25% calling range with this stack
  • compueasecompuease Admin
    Vekked wrote: »
    I haven't folded my SB with <20BB since the 80s. I'm 24.

    You don't fold 19BB, in the SB with a raise, re-raise in front of you when your sitting with 8,3 off?? I bow to thee sir.. :)
  • VekkedVekked
    Richard~ wrote: »
    lol, did a bunch more math, bluffing bvb isn't marginal, we're talking way bigger edges than i ever imagined if I'm doing this right

    apparently shoving 27o is quite profitable vs a 25% calling range with this stack

    you're probably doing it right :)
  • VekkedVekked
    compuease wrote: »
    You don't fold 19BB, in the SB with a raise, re-raise in front of you when your sitting with 8,3 off?? I bow to thee sir.. :)

    no way, defend ur honour
  • compueasecompuease Admin
    Vekked wrote: »
    no way, defend ur honour

    Ah ha... so that's the game is it? ;)
  • DennisGDennisG
    Richard~ wrote: »
    you might want to redo that math ^^'

    haha..ok, almost 20%

    BB dependent of course, but on the bubble...he is likely to be tightening up his calling range vs a stack of this size?
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