this is why i avoid poker stars...

MANITOBA420MANITOBA420
in Brags, Beats & Variance
PokerStars, $60/120 Omaha Tournament, 4 Players
Hand Converter by Pokerhand.org
Board: 8d 7d Kh Jd Jc
soofunny (CO): $4 720,00
pekkuno (Button): $3 651,00
kall (SB): $3 767,00
20 Octane (BB): $2 820,00
Dealt to 20 Octane 5d2cKcKd
Pre-flop:
(2 folds), kall raises to $360,00, 20 Octane raises to $1 080,00, kall raises to $3 240,00, 20 Octane calls $1 740,00 and is all-in, kall returns $420,00
Flop: ($5 820,00) 8d7dKh (2 Players)
Turn: ($5 820,00) Jd (2 Players)
River: ($5 820,00) Jc (2 Players)
kall Showed JhJs4cTc
20 Octane Showed 5d2cKcKd
kall wins $5 640,00

flop top set, turn the flush, hes got JJ, LMAO i love poker stars

Comments

  • MiloMilo
    So, you didn't want him to shove into you when he was dominated?

    Your results oriented thinking (hat-tip to BBCZ) is a bigger problem than P*'s RNG, imo.

    You made the right move, you got outdrawn. Type "nh" in the chat box and move on . . .
  • MANITOBA420MANITOBA420
    yes MILO i understand, however it seems to happen to me all the time on stars. So instead of tilting I just dont play there. Is it standard to keep taking beats like this and never hitting any back in return. If you don't run good you don't win, simple.
  • compueasecompuease Admin
    ^^^ +1 ditto.. results oriented thinking.. next post of value.. all sites (and Live) are the same...

    / end thread..
  • MANITOBA420MANITOBA420
    So why do i run the opposite on UB/AP, poker time, etc. If I dont win there I'm not going to play there, its just gonna screw my game up elsewhere by getting me tilted.

    I know all about the "what you think is what will become" theory. It's the same conspiracy as the RNG.
  • MiloMilo
    Read Psychology of Poker by Schoonmaker. You remember bad beats because they are frustrating. No one remembers when their Aces hold, because they are supposed to win.

    As for running better on one site or the the other, I would check your stats vs. the sample size on each site. If you have played an equal number of hands on the various sites you have accounts with, I would be surprised if your "bad beats" or your "run good" were all that different, from one to the other.

    Your posts are a classic case of your perception becoming your reality. Even a donk like me can see that.
  • DrTyoreDrTyore
    MANITOBA420 wrote: »
    So why do i run the opposite on UB/AP, poker time, etc. If I dont win there I'm not going to play there, its just gonna screw my game up elsewhere by getting me tilted.

    I know all about the "what you think is what will become" theory. It's the same conspiracy as the RNG.

    Ask one question

    Have I played 100,000+ hands on Pokerstars and gotten consistently the same results everytime?

    A: Yes - wow, it is rigged, and you've proven it

    B: No - it's rigged, and the aliens are controlling you via the man.

    Mark
  • compueasecompuease Admin
    lol, you guys take a lot more interest in good explanations.. I must be getting old as I don't have the patience anymore. Perhaps I should give up this well paying mod position for someone younger and more patient... :)
  • MiloMilo
    hee hee hee . . . he referenced me and "younger" . . . my weekend can start now.
  • compueasecompuease Admin
    Milo wrote: »
    hee hee hee . . . he referenced me and "younger" . . . my weekend can start now.

    I wasn't referring to you, it was AJ. :):) Sorry to put the downer back on your weekend... By the way are you interested in another polar bear swim with Voodoo? He's back.. or almost..
  • MiloMilo
    compuease wrote: »
    By the way are you interested in another polar bear swim with Voodoo? He's back.. or almost..

    Voodoo is back? cool.
    Polar Bear swim? not so much.

    Almost? Mystery abounds . . . Turkish prison? Gitmo? Sex Change?
  • MANITOBA420MANITOBA420
    In simple temrs psychology is trying to outplay an oppennt with the worse of the hands. Regardless of how well you play and what you think it still won't give you the winning hands. Its like saying their is a poker god controlling the cards, by peoples thoughts and emotions.
  • DrTyoreDrTyore
    MANITOBA420 wrote: »
    In simple temrs psychology is trying to outplay an oppennt with the worse of the hands. Regardless of how well you play and what you think it still won't give you the winning hands. Its like saying their is a poker god controlling the cards, by peoples thoughts and emotions.

    Also, fuck spelling, grammar, and intelligibility.

    Mark
  • HobbesHobbes
    MANITOBA420 wrote: »
    In simple temrs psychology is trying to outplay an oppennt with the worse of the hands. Regardless of how well you play and what you think it still won't give you the winning hands. Its like saying their is a poker god controlling the cards, by peoples thoughts and emotions.

    Hitting the bong a bit early? :D
  • compueasecompuease Admin
    MANITOBA420 wrote: »
    In simple temrs psychology is trying to outplay an oppennt with the worse of the hands. Regardless of how well you play and what you think it still won't give you the winning hands. Its like saying their is a poker god controlling the cards, by peoples thoughts and emotions.

    I'm not sure I really understand your post but if you are talking about the psychology of poker it's a LOT more than winning with the worst of hands. Even more important is maximizing what you get out of good hands AND minimizing what you lose with 2nd best hands. Bluffing (what I'm assuming is what you mean by worse hands) is only a fraction of the skill of "outplaying" an opponent. However many inexperienced players seem to think it's all about the "bluffing". A good poker player, whether it be tournament or cash, makes money of other players mistakes.
    When you understand all that and implement it correctly the short term variance of how the cards fall will no longer bother you no matter what the site..




    P.S. I'm not there yet but strive to be. :)
  • MANITOBA420MANITOBA420
    Milo wrote: »
    Read Psychology of Poker by Schoonmaker. You remember bad beats because they are frustrating. No one remembers when their Aces hold, because they are supposed to win.

    As for running better on one site or the the other, I would check your stats vs. the sample size on each site. If you have played an equal number of hands on the various sites you have accounts with, I would be surprised if your "bad beats" or your "run good" were all that different, from one to the other.

    Your posts are a classic case of your perception becoming your reality. Even a donk like me can see that.

    its quite simple really my ROI is better on the smaller sites because their payouts are not top heavy, and the fields are much more standard. I would rather play a tourney and make the final table in 5 hours, than play for 5 hours and get coolered before the big money. I can get 3rd in a 20 dollar tourney on UB and make as much as somone in 12th in a large 20 dollar yet play 1/2 the time.
  • MANITOBA420MANITOBA420
    Hobbes wrote: »
    Hitting the bong a bit early? :D

    The bong was hit before you were up an atom
  • HobbesHobbes
    MANITOBA420 wrote: »
    The bong was hit before you were up an atom


    ummm. OK. lol

    If your going to use a colloquialism (prob a big word for you :D ) at least learn it. :D
  • Hang to DryHang to Dry
    Hobbes wrote: »
    ummm. OK. lol

    If your going to use a colloquialism (prob a big word for you :D ) at least learn it. :D

    If you're going to going to use English, at least learn it.

    :D
    <3
  • UnknownUnknown
    Hang to Dry wrote: »
    If you're going to going to use English, at least learn it.

    :D
    <3
    bam
  • HobbesHobbes
    Well played.
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