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MTT theory time......

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in Analyze My Hand
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PokerStars Game #58948265996: Tournament #411011053, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (25/50) - 2011/03/09 18:45:14 PT [2011/03/09 21:45:14 ET]
Table '411011053 73' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: abiasin7 (4295 in chips)
Seat 2: motero33 (2645 in chips)
Seat 3: forboon (7635 in chips)
Seat 4: Wiseguy80 (3200 in chips)
Seat 5: lv1950 (2260 in chips)
Seat 6: nambi park (1765 in chips)
Seat 7: 123Served (2940 in chips)
Seat 8: hagmar7 (2525 in chips)
Seat 9: Errorfix (4410 in chips)
motero33: posts small blind 25
forboon: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to forboon [Kc Ac]
Wiseguy80: folds
lv1950: raises 2210 to 2260 and is all-in
nambi park: folds
123Served: folds
hagmar7: folds
Errorfix: folds
abiasin7: folds
motero33: folds
forboon: ???

Comments

  • HobbesHobbes
    snap call.

    You still have 100BB if you lose

    Not sure why you ask?
  • HobbesHobbes
    You could also slowroll him :)
  • Wetts1012Wetts1012
    I think if you stove ak vs ak,99+

    u have ur answer, and iono if it's what erryone thinks it is
  • Wetts1012Wetts1012
    And yes, I think the range I gave is balanced
  • UnknownUnknown
    Wetts1012 wrote: »
    And yes, I think the range I gave is balanced
    og does that mean unexploitable.....?
  • UnknownUnknown
    Hobbes wrote: »
    snap call.

    You still have 100BB if you lose

    Not sure why you ask?

    im full on ok with a call, its the bottom of my calling range. but their alot of literature out there that says its not worth it early on, and especially because i already have a big stack. so some say its a snap call, some say its fold. fwiw, i folded....and i try my hardest never to fold.
  • philliiveyphilliivey
    darbday wrote: »
    im full on ok with a call, its the bottom of my calling range. but their alot of literature out there that says its not worth it early on, and especially because i already have a big stack. so some say its a snap call, some say its fold. fwiw, i folded....and i try my hardest never to fold.


    This is what I am having trouble with also, half say yes, other half say no on situations.
  • HobbesHobbes
    philliivey wrote: »
    This is what I am having trouble with also, half say yes, other half say no on situations.

    Depends on how much gamble you have imo
  • compueasecompuease Admin
    The way I look at these open shoves for like 45BB is this..

    No way he is shoving AA or KK plus you have AK so even less likely. Don't think he is open shoving little pair since he may be able to set mine although it is marginal. That leaves mid pair up to maybe QQ another AK and maybe AQ. The only one I like is AQ but that's not a big %. To me it looks like a flip situation so do you feel lucky? Little equity in the pot and obviously no fold equity since op is the one pushing. If I think about it I can find a fold here.. Too tight Wetts? If I had raised first and then he pushed over the top I likely call especially given that I have the chips to do it..
    Now most of the time I snap call but if I really have time to think about it, different game... Make some sense?
  • UnknownUnknown
    compuease wrote: »
    The way I look at these open shoves for like 45BB is this..

    No way he is shoving AA or KK plus you have AK so even less likely. Don't think he is open shoving little pair since he may be able to set mine although it is marginal. That leaves mid pair up to maybe QQ another AK and maybe AQ. The only one I like is AQ but that's not a big %. To me it looks like a flip situation so do you feel lucky? Little equity in the pot and obviously no fold equity since op is the one pushing. If I think about it I can find a fold here.. Too tight Wetts? If I had raised first and then he pushed over the top I likely call especially given that I have the chips to do it..
    Now most of the time I snap call but if I really have time to think about it, different game... Make some sense?

    ya and the way you desribe the match up and which hands are more likely is just putting the % into words...and i do think he has aq in his range, basically its a coinflip, maybe just better maybe just worse, people seem to argue both ways...but i don't think we're really ever beating his range, we can hope to catch him with AJs or something....theres always some wacky hand once in awhile.....the underlying question is a deep stack early worth a neutral flip or even a slight underdog flip......
  • VekkedVekked
    Reads? Call if he has AQ in his range. If he's sort of spazzy I tend to call @ these stakes.
  • UnknownUnknown
    Vekked wrote: »
    Reads? Call if he has AQ in his range. If he's sort of spazzy I tend to call @ these stakes.
    9 hands in, we could opr but i think we know the answer to that, aq must be in his range, and spazzy too. I'm sure its +ev to call but we already have a deepish stack.....do we flip for more edge?
  • djgolfcandjgolfcan
    I tend to lean towards calling. In this hand, you close the action, and I doubt villain has AA, or KK as you have one of each. If you lose, you still have 100 BBs but if you win, you have close to $10k.

    They say you have to win flips to win tournaments.
  • VekkedVekked
    darbday wrote: »
    9 hands in, we could opr but i think we know the answer to that, aq must be in his range, and spazzy too. I'm sure its +ev to call but we already have a deepish stack.....do we flip for more edge?

    Obv we call if it's +EV.
  • VekkedVekked
    djgolfcan wrote: »
    I tend to lean towards calling. In this hand, you close the action, and I doubt villain has AA, or KK as you have one of each. If you lose, you still have 100 BBs but if you win, you have close to $10k.

    They say you have to win flips to win tournaments.

    How many chips you have if you call and lose generally shouldn't be a consideration except under special circumstances. Not here.
  • compueasecompuease Admin
    Vekked wrote: »
    How many chips you have if you call and lose generally shouldn't be a consideration except under special circumstances. Not here.

    I think this is what I was trying to say but got a little long winded.... Totally agree Vek...
  • blackmagiczblackmagicz
    Most likely small pair or AX....I snap those off all day....o
  • BlondeFishBlondeFish
    If villain's jamming range is 2.7% of hands (KK+ AQs+ AKo A5s), I would only call with QQ+ (top 1.4% of hands).
    Vekked wrote: »
    Reads? Call if he has AQ in his range.
  • DennisGDennisG
    When I see these over shoves early in the game they scream 99-jj and Ax to me. It's a large player base tourney, I call with the flip and try to get a bigger stack.
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