Playground Poker Club

Currently in Montreal playing poker at the playground poker club. Quick rundown.

Pros - dealers are quick and game is run smoothly
- waitresses are very hot and revealingly dressed
- have not really had to wait to get a seat at a table
- tournaments run on time
- food is excellent
- wide range of games from 1/2 nl to 10/25
- PLO up to 5 5
- dealers are all fluent in english and french


Undecided - While the waitress's are hot I have had issues with them forgetting to bring drinks etc. Possibly the $1 tip isn't enough for them to remember.

A lot of donks there, however be prepared for the suckouts that occur.

Cons - Cards mark easy and are one way.... i.e. they have the name playground poker club and if one gets turned around you could possibly know which one (not sure if I'm explaining right) but I need sleep.

- not easy to find for the first time, but once you've been there it's fine.
- some of the players throw temper tantrums when their ace's get cracked, cursing swearing gets tolerated up to a point before they tell you to calm down.

Forgot to add rake:

No flop no drop. If flop $1 to Bad beat. 10% to rake to max $8. (that was at 1/2
Time to grab some sleep I will post more later.
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  • For Steve this was the blind schedule for last nights $300 buy in. I will confirm when I play today if the schedule is the same for all tourneys (I believe it is).

    25/50
    50/100
    100/200
    150/300
    200/400
    300/600
    400/800 A100
    500/1K A100
    600/1.2 A100
    800/1.6 A 200
    1K/2K A 200

    I think you get the picture.

    65 played at $300 each 17 548 payout 19500 taken in.

    Payouts $6 700
    2nd 3 999
    3rd 2 450
    4th 1 600
    5th 1 200
    6th 899
    7th 700
  • Thanks Joe
  • Nice summary Joe... So that's where you've been for the last couple of months... How long are the blind levels for the tournies?
    Would love to hear some stories of interest when you get a chance.
  • Blind levels vary. Last nights tourney was 20 minute levels. Late registration until first break (Level 5). Todays 1 pm tourney is 15 minutes and I will be heading out shortly to play.
  • thanks for the info joe. i may be heading out that way this summer.
  • back again tonight.... on the plus side they haven't sorted out their comps.... foood is comped and all drinks alcohol or not.... they are working it out comping it based on play.... take it in boys....
  • AcidJoe wrote: »
    Currently in Montreal playing poker at the playground poker club. Quick rundown.

    Pros - dealers are quick and game is run smoothly
    - waitresses are very hot and revealingly dressed
    - have not really had to wait to get a seat at a table
    - tournaments run on time
    - food is excellent
    - wide range of games from 1/2 nl to 10/25
    - PLO up to 5 5
    - dealers are all fluent in english and french


    Undecided - While the waitress's are hot I have had issues with them forgetting to bring drinks etc. Possibly the $1 tip isn't enough for them to remember.

    A lot of donks there, however be prepared for the suckouts that occur.

    Cons - Cards mark easy and are one way.... i.e. they have the name playground poker club and if one gets turned around you could possibly know which one (not sure if I'm explaining right) but I need sleep.

    - not easy to find for the first time, but once you've been there it's fine.
    - some of the players throw temper tantrums when their ace's get cracked, cursing swearing gets tolerated up to a point before they tell you to calm down.

    Forgot to add rake:

    No flop no drop. If flop $1 to Bad beat. 10% to rake to max $8. (that was at 1/2
    Time to grab some sleep I will post more later.

    That 8+1 rake must really cut into your win rate.

    I guess it adds up to about $45,000 a year in rake if you play regularly?

    Is it worth it compared to say, $4+1 rake at Seneca? Or 5+1 rake at Niagara?
  • AcidJoe wrote: »
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    - some of the players throw temper tantrums when their ace's get cracked, cursing swearing gets tolerated up to a point before they tell you to calm down.

    So how much time did they give you? :D
  • Hey Joe, do these clubs typically have cash games running in the day time or do they really only get going in the evening? Are there any clubs downtown or are they all on the reserve? Thanks.
  • I don't think there is a poker room in the Montreal casino but I don't know. This club is open from noon until 6 am. I only went to this club but I understand there is at least one more on the reserve.
  • moose wrote: »
    So how much time did they give you? :D

    It wasn't me. However I was the one who caused him to curse and swear when he made it $20 UTG got 4 callers and I called from the BB with K2 of hearts. Flop was 6 2 2. His AA got cracked.
  • Probably heading to Playground Poker Club tonight for some 2/5. Hopefully I can get a cab back :)
  • Rake is awful. Is it even higher at 2/5? I'd never play cash there. I assume free drinks or food with that rake?
  • whatever $13 a hand is a bargain! who cares if they are taking $400 an hour off the table u get some free sirloin!!!!
  • on the plus side u can guarantee ur opposition have a collective iq of 90 if they are paying such awful rake so there is that
  • and we all know how cowardly the french r so u should be able to steal any pot just by betting or raising. i played blackjack there and the entire table just surrendered every hand!
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  • If anyone has any real questions about Playground, I'm a pretty regular player there and elsewhere around Montreal.

    Some facts:

    It's open 24/7 now and there are tables running around the clock.

    There are at least 2 tournaments every day, one at noon (used to be MWF, now every day) and one or more at 7:30.

    It's in BravoLive (the iPhone app) so you can see what's happening in terms of cash tables any time.

    Tournaments are very well run overall. By popular demand there are almost no rebuy tourneys any more (freeze outs FTW). Except for some satellites there is no re-entry or purchase of dead stacks. The tournament desk runs some good promotions though generally oriented towards the frequent player. Most notable is a $10K freeroll each month for the top 40 on the tournament leader board.
  • mikelbyl wrote: »
    If anyone has any real questions about Playground, I'm a pretty regular player there and elsewhere around Montreal.

    Some facts:

    It's open 24/7 now and there are tables running around the clock.

    There are at least 2 tournaments every day, one at noon (used to be MWF, now every day) and one or more at 7:30.

    It's in BravoLive (the iPhone app) so you can see what's happening in terms of cash tables any time.

    Tournaments are very well run overall. By popular demand there are almost no rebuy tourneys any more (freeze outs FTW). Except for some satellites there is no re-entry or purchase of dead stacks. The tournament desk runs some good promotions though generally oriented towards the frequent player. Most notable is a $10K freeroll each month for the top 40 on the tournament leader board.

    Seems like they are raping the cash players and giving the tourney players freerolls. Sounds like it might be a good place to play tournies and avoid cash games.
  • Whatever. The rake is the rake, it's a fixed variable that you have to work around. Keep banging that drum all you like, but the rooms are all active, lots of action, great service, fun safe environments with all kinds of players, from total newbs up to full-time live pros and all kinds of hobbyists and degens.
  • Is the PokerMansion opened up yet in Kahnawake? Curious to see how they compare. Four Aces is closed, so wondering if they will do anything differently.

    Pretty big names endorsing it. We'll see I guess. Competition is always good for the players.
  • I have heard there's a date for Stardust: Dec 16. We'll see if that comes to pass.

    There's a chance Four Aces will open again as well - there are very credible rumours floating about. I don't want to speed rumours like that on a public forum (they may not be true after all) but stay tuned.

    On any weekday night in Montreal we already have (in total) about 30+ cash tables running plus another 25 tournament tables with more on weekends, and it's not 100% clear that the player pool can expand quickly enough to meet the additional capacity that is slated to be added - Stardust will have 16 tables total and Four Aces has 15 (or so).
  • Oh if anyone's interested in making the trip there is another $1100 tourney on Dec 10 at noon. It's a two-day event with hour-long blind levels and a good structure. Top prize in the same tournament last month was $42K. This one should sell out at 170 players.
  • mikelbyl wrote: »
    Whatever. The rake is the rake, it's a fixed variable that you have to work around. Keep banging that drum all you like, but the rooms are all active, lots of action, great service, fun safe environments with all kinds of players, from total newbs up to full-time live pros and all kinds of hobbyists and degens.

    fixed variables ftw
  • I ended up at the Casino du Montreal. Was able to squeak out a $200/hr profit. Very tame 2/5 game and lot of players calling down with nothing. Think max rake is $10 plus BBJ.
  • mikelbyl wrote: »
    If anyone has any real questions about Playground, I'm a pretty regular player there and elsewhere around Montreal.
    Is Playground or any of the other poker clubs legally licensed by the government? I would have thought that Casino du Montreal and Loto-Quebec would be pressuring the authorities to enforce the Criminal Code of Canada, just like the FBI shut down PokerStars & FTP in the US.
  • BlondeFish wrote: »
    Is Playground or any of the other poker clubs legally licensed by the government? I would have thought that Casino du Montreal and Loto-Quebec would be pressuring the authorities to enforce the Criminal Code of Canada, just like the FBI shut down PokerStars & FTP in the US.

    Two words. Mohawk Standoff

    Aka OKA.

    No, they are licensed by the KGC, and considered as part of a soviern territory. There is a Montreal reporter that is constantly stirring the pot on this issue.

    Is it worth a massive political mess, possibly bloodshed to enforce the issue?
  • One Nation . . . One Law. If it's good enough for our First Nations, it ought to be good enough for the rest of us. And as long as they are taking the Queen's gold, you can blow "sovereign territory" out your wazoo. At least these cardrooms are showing the government up for the hypocrites that they are.
  • Cardrooms are just the tip of the iceberg of course, it's like 40-60% of online gambling site servers in the world are run out of there. Government must have their reasons to back off. I agree with the one nation one law, but on the other hand treaties left very little, so if they capitalize on what they have, good on them
  • I don't want to get in to the politics of it, but 90% of Canadian-based Indian Nations have never signed (nor been asked to sign) a treaty ceding their sovereignty. In fact in a very real way Canada wouldn't exist at all if not for the Mohawks saving the British bacon time and time again. Canada has routinely broken most of the treaties is has signed with natives as well. There is no moral or legal high ground for Canada related to natives anywhere in Canada.

    The government doesn't test any of this in law because the best legal opinion is that they'd lose (I studied all of this stuff pretty extensively back in my studying days).

    Anyhow these are legally licensed live poker rooms under the authority of the Kahnawake Gaming Commission and I can tell you from personal observation that the KGC takes their regulatory authority very seriously as do the rooms. It's a very tight ship as far as I can tell.
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