Too Tight Or Good Fold Pt 3

Cerberus

Both villains have shown aptitude to be lagtards but neither had made either of these plays yet (limp call big raise or 7xr from BB). Seems like there are better spots than this to take them out. As you can see from the rest of the hand, they're both insane.

PokerStars Game #58267267050: Tournament #368721192, $1.00+$0.25+$0.15 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XI (125/250) - 2011/02/25 14:20:20 ET
Table '368721192 5' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: troypizzaman (9834 in chips)
Seat 2: timyr777 (5895 in chips)
Seat 3: hase111 (10775 in chips)
Seat 4: Maine1719 (7700 in chips)
Seat 6: McAusland (15220 in chips)
Seat 7: JohnyB1975 (19040 in chips)
Seat 8: vanbomi (12678 in chips)
Seat 9: gramsy2bc (21010 in chips)
troypizzaman: posts the ante 30
timyr777: posts the ante 30
hase111: posts the ante 30
Maine1719: posts the ante 30
McAusland: posts the ante 30
JohnyB1975: posts the ante 30
vanbomi: posts the ante 30
gramsy2bc: posts the ante 30
McAusland: posts small blind 125
JohnyB1975: posts big blind 250
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to McAusland [Jd Jh]
vanbomi: folds
gramsy2bc: calls 250
troypizzaman: folds
timyr777: folds
hase111: folds
Maine1719: folds
McAusland: calls 125
JohnyB1975: raises 1500 to 1750
gramsy2bc: calls 1500
McAusland: folds
*** FLOP *** [Kc Qh 4h]
JohnyB1975: bets 17260 and is all-in
gramsy2bc: calls 17260
*** TURN *** [Kc Qh 4h] [3c]
*** RIVER *** [Kc Qh 4h 3c] [8d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
JohnyB1975: shows [8h Ah] (a pair of Eights)
gramsy2bc: shows [5s Ks] (a pair of Kings)
gramsy2bc collected 38510 from pot
gramsy2bc wins the $0.25 bounty for eliminating JohnyB1975
JohnyB1975 finished the tournament in 16th place
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 38510 | Rake 0
Board [Kc Qh 4h 3c 8d]
Seat 1: troypizzaman folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: timyr777 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: hase111 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Maine1719 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: McAusland (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: JohnyB1975 (big blind) showed [8h Ah] and lost with a pair of Eights
Seat 8: vanbomi folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: gramsy2bc showed [5s Ks] and won (38510) with a pair of Kings

wildbill7145

Normally, I'd say you'd be an idiot to take my advice but for what it's worth...

Given your description of these guys, you could very well see where this was headed. Which did end up being the case. You've got more than a big enough stack to wait for a better spot, rather than throwing your whole stack in when there are many hands that are likely to beat you.

Unknown

you set yourself up for a squeeze play here (albeit not a very good one), with two limpers a raise from the bigger blind puts him on a very wide range. You could call like you did but then you really are left with set minning the flop.

A better play here would be to raise to 4 times the bb, trying to get the bb to fold and be hu with the initial limper. then a continution bet will usually take the pot down. whats important about that is it help you play a strong hand out of position

you can also do what you did, and then re rasise the bb's squeeze knowing that most of the time he will be light because you and the other limper showed no strength....


try hard not to limp......