What is your line?

SharantyrSharantyr
in MTT Strategy
PokerStars Game #58260980917: Tournament #366081284, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (75/150) - 2011/02/25 12:21:44 ET
Table '366081284 71' 8-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: cormacc (5145 in chips)
Seat 2: AkilaN222 (11005 in chips)
Seat 3: BRUNY147 (6483 in chips)
Seat 4: CurreChrippa (1520 in chips)
Seat 5: harrypetas81 (4890 in chips)
Seat 6: connor101164 (6773 in chips)
Seat 7: Sharantyr (5380 in chips)
Seat 8: ronsroadking (5366 in chips)
cormacc: posts the ante 20
AkilaN222: posts the ante 20
BRUNY147: posts the ante 20
CurreChrippa: posts the ante 20
harrypetas81: posts the ante 20
connor101164: posts the ante 20
Sharantyr: posts the ante 20
ronsroadking: posts the ante 20
Sharantyr: posts small blind 75
ronsroadking: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Sharantyr [Ad Ks]
cormacc: folds
AkilaN222: folds
BRUNY147: folds
CurreChrippa: calls 150
harrypetas81: calls 150
connor101164: calls 150
Sharantyr: raises 900 to 1050
ronsroadking: folds
CurreChrippa: folds
harrypetas81: folds
connor101164: calls 900
*** FLOP *** [Tc Kh 7s]
Sharantyr: checks
connor101164: checks
*** TURN *** [Tc Kh 7s] [As]
Sharantyr: bets 1125
connor101164: raises 1125 to 2250
Sharantyr:


My question is:

are you concerned here about losing any value...a flat call to his min raise leaves me 2k behind.

Comments

  • MiloMilo
    Shove. Then move on to the next tourney, when the Villain tables QJs . . .
  • UnknownUnknown
    How do you check the flop?
  • SharantyrSharantyr
    By pushing the check button...duh. ;)

    Why not give him the opportunity to bet here? I was hoping my sb raise pre looked like I was trying to steal the pot.

    What are you thinking here, and what would you do?
  • MiloMilo
    Maybe a set, but more likely to be a chop, or better still A10. He might even have a naked Ace. I do not see you as being behind, so get the chips in the middle, girl.
  • UnknownUnknown
    Im thinking... his min raise makes me feel like he has 2pr that isnt as good as yours, maybe a,10. . . QJ is possible as well... tough spot.

    I ship it after thinking about it.
  • UnknownUnknown
    thinking about the types of hands the villain could have, we're surely ahead of many, behind to a few. But there are also many hands that he can have that are drawing, so i think we want to shove here and make those hands pay....also since he showed aggression here and is fairly committed he will prob call his stack off with whatever he does have. if you jam and he folds on the off chance its not so bad cause we take down a big pot anyways. if you flatted and jammed the river you are brave ;)
  • philliiveyphilliivey
    AIPF wrote: »
    How do you check the flop?


    On that flop, a check is not bad.
  • philliiveyphilliivey
    AIPF wrote: »
    Im thinking... his min raise makes me feel like he has 2pr that isnt as good as yours, maybe a,10. . . QJ is possible as well... tough spot.

    I ship it after thinking about it.


    100 percent correct!:)


    I am feeling 2 pair here like A10.(my first guess anyway,lol)
  • Wetts1012Wetts1012
    Villain isnt deep enough to worry about losing value in this spot.

    Hes got 50% of his stack in already, so ship it in.

    I think that was the question right?

    Reading the other responses we're not questioning that the stacks are going in, we're questioning the best possible way to make that happen right?
  • UnknownUnknown
    Wetts1012 wrote: »
    we're questioning the best possible way to make that happen right?
    i do believe so, right
  • HVEEPOKERHVEEPOKER
    Shove it. Collect the cookies. He may have A-Q . Pretty sure you have him crushed but he may be figuring you will fold.
  • Richard~Richard~
    If he's not retarded he's not gonna ship 2k into 7k on the river after you call his turn raise. Don't worry about shoving (which I don't see how we cannot ) the turn

    Also, if he had QJ, he'd probably bet call the flop given stacks. If he has 77 I guess it sucks to be us
  • SharantyrSharantyr
    Wetts1012 wrote: »
    Villain isnt deep enough to worry about losing value in this spot.

    Hes got 50% of his stack in already, so ship it in.

    I think that was the question right?

    Reading the other responses we're not questioning that the stacks are going in, we're questioning the best possible way to make that happen right?


    Yes, that is what I was asking. We all know that I am shipping the turn here, but the outcome of the hand prompted me to ask about the value at this point.

    Obviously for a reason....his minraise was meant to scare me? I just dont understand his line.

    PokerStars Game #58260980917: Tournament #366081284, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (75/150) - 2011/02/25 12:21:44 ET
    Table '366081284 71' 8-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: cormacc (5145 in chips)
    Seat 2: AkilaN222 (11005 in chips)
    Seat 3: BRUNY147 (6483 in chips)
    Seat 4: CurreChrippa (1520 in chips)
    Seat 5: harrypetas81 (4890 in chips)
    Seat 6: connor101164 (6773 in chips)
    Seat 7: Sharantyr (5380 in chips)
    Seat 8: ronsroadking (5366 in chips)
    cormacc: posts the ante 20
    AkilaN222: posts the ante 20
    BRUNY147: posts the ante 20
    CurreChrippa: posts the ante 20
    harrypetas81: posts the ante 20
    connor101164: posts the ante 20
    Sharantyr: posts the ante 20
    ronsroadking: posts the ante 20
    Sharantyr: posts small blind 75
    ronsroadking: posts big blind 150
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Sharantyr [Ad Ks]
    cormacc: folds
    AkilaN222: folds
    BRUNY147: folds
    CurreChrippa: calls 150
    harrypetas81: calls 150
    connor101164: calls 150
    Sharantyr: raises 900 to 1050
    ronsroadking: folds
    CurreChrippa: folds
    harrypetas81: folds
    connor101164: calls 900
    *** FLOP *** [Tc Kh 7s]
    Sharantyr: checks
    connor101164: checks
    *** TURN *** [Tc Kh 7s] [As]
    Sharantyr: bets 1125
    connor101164: raises 1125 to 2250
    Sharantyr: raises 2060 to 4310 and is all-in
    connor101164: folds
    Uncalled bet (2060) returned to Sharantyr
    Sharantyr collected 7210 from pot
    Sharantyr: doesn't show hand
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 7210 | Rake 0
    Board [Tc Kh 7s As]
    Seat 1: cormacc folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: AkilaN222 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: BRUNY147 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: CurreChrippa folded before Flop
    Seat 5: harrypetas81 folded before Flop
    Seat 6: connor101164 (button) folded on the Turn
    Seat 7: Sharantyr (small blind) collected (7210)
    Seat 8: ronsroadking (big blind) folded before Flop
  • UnknownUnknown
    its possible he had absolutely nothing....seems to me villain figured ace was a scare card. but ya there's too much draw on the board not to get it in on the turn.
  • UnknownUnknown
    how'd u end up doing anyways hun?

    I was railing for a bit, that was the cap tourney wasnt it? I saw you with a decent stack then had to go out for dinner :)
  • CerberusCerberus
    I think, just looking at it, they repopped figuring you were bluffing the ace as a scare card, then realized they were fucked 6 ways from Sunday when you shipped. I think you got as much as you could. Nicely done :)
  • syphilaidssyphilaids
    That minraise is cute.
    Things to note on the hand....
    he was the third limper, and once everyone folded he called your large raise. Big sign of an arrogant/loose player. Also a big tell his hand is probably complete trash. I mean, would you limp in after 2 people with AQ, AJ, 99+ here? probably not.
    So of all the hands that beat us I can only put him on 77 and QJ.
    Of all the garbage he's playing in this spot, I don't think there's any value to flat the turn. If it is, its fractions of +ev. Just pop getitin on the turn.

    Also I dont like the slow play on the flop. He might just call you with 78 here or even reraise you. If he called pre with that trash, he's going to call again when he hits.
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