Online MTT Final Table 120man: excuse lack of HH.

syphilaids

Final Table of an ~ 120 man. First place is $580, 5th is $110.

5 handed now, Im 3rd biggest stack with ~90K
Villian has been loose aggressive at thsi final table over the last 30 hands.
Villian has me covered.
Blinds = 800/1600, 200 ante.

Villian is UTG and raises to 3200
folds to be in SB
Hero has QsJd and calls 3200. Do you guys prefer a reraise here?
BB folds.

Pot ~ 13000
FLOP
Qc 4c 5d
Hero checks
Villian bets 3200
Hero raises to 12,500K
Villian calls

Pot ~ 40,000
TURN Jc
Hero ??? (we have approx. 70K left behind us and he has us covered)
We have top 2 on a flushed board, do we try to get it in here?

jdAA88

I fold pre.
As played, I probably check the turn and see what he does, I don't think I'd be trying to get it in here.

Unknown

i'd feel more comfortable calling this in the bb. but i fold preflop too. raise 18k, fold to a re raise. jam any q or j on the river (lol). check fold to any c or pair on the river, check call all others

HVEEPOKER

darbday wrote: »

i'd feel more comfortable calling this in the bb. but i fold preflop too. raise 18k, fold to a re raise. jam any q or j on the river (lol). check fold to any c or pair on the river, check call all others

I had a guy stealing pots earlier . I made 2 calls in a row depleting his stack
I figure you might as well go for it if you are already in the money.

Wetts1012

Im folding pre. If Im not folding Im at least 3 betting (villain dependent). Never calling.

Flop play is fine. As played Im getting it in here. I prob donk lead like 32K ish. We have the relative nut. JJ and QQ are there but unlikely. AcKc is the only hand that crushes us. AA and KK with clubs must pay.

betrthanphil

basically the same as what wetts say, if he has been raisin lots id prob 3 bet, if not id fold. On the turn im ready to get it in,Id prob lead out for like 18k, giving him a shot to try to donk off his stack. If he calls and the river is a club id reluctantly give it up.

syphilaids

Ok Clearly I have a leak that I don't get....
I figured here folding is too tight. We have QJ (although I get that its a trouble hand) facing a raise from an aggressive big stack.

More then anything we are getting about 3.5-1 on our money. even if we're dominated, we're still getting the odds to call, no?

I thought this is a spot where facing a weak raise from an agressive big stack, raising>calling>folding, but no one agrees. Can someone explain pls?

betrthanphil

Just calling out of position against the chip leader or guy in second which ever it is, is how you lose stacks, maybe slowly but in the long run it isnt a profitable play. No matter what the flop comes, unless he picks up some showdown value, hes probably gonna bet, and more times then not your gonna just have to give it up. By 3-betting you take a little control over the hand and now youll be betting into him on the flop making him make the decision instead of yourself. You want to try to get into hands where your leading the action. I dont see calling here as a horrible play I just wouldnt recommend making a habit out of just calling in the bb against an aggressive player. Those are just my thoughts anyways.

Unknown

been meaning to add i've read alot its important to distinguish between LAG pre-flop and post-flop since many times people play differently. If he's Lag post-flop it would help me call a raise, if not i would have more reason to fold to a bet.

and im not expert on blind defending yet but qjo is a trappy hand for your situation. although you may have the odds, you are putting yourself in alot of bad matchups, like aq kq jj qq kk kj, even if you had decent equity you are likely to uncontrollably lose your stack. i think even without the results this hand reflects that.

syphilaids

well, villian is lag pre and post flop. His cbet is 100%.

I mean yeah, it does suck running into the top 5% of hands here, but realistically his range is within the top 30%.
Also, I figure this is a good hand to defend my BB with. I can't appear to be a push over.
Again, we're really deep ehre for sure, but were losing 3400 every 5 hands right now. We have to play some hands, and we can't just play our top 5% and only from button.
Our position does suck here, and I agree now that a raise is better then call.

Everyone seems to think that a fold is best here, and in the future I will try this more often.

Results are irrelevant but he ended up pushing, I called he shows Kc5c for a made flush.

Unknown

syphilaids wrote: »

well, villian is lag pre and post flop. His cbet is 100%.

I mean yeah, it does suck running into the top 5% of hands here, but realistically his range is within the top 30%.
Also, I figure this is a good hand to defend my BB with. I can't appear to be a push over.
Again, we're really deep ehre for sure, but were losing 3400 every 5 hands right now. We have to play some hands, and we can't just play our top 5% and only from button.
Our position does suck here, and I agree now that a raise is better then call.

Everyone seems to think that a fold is best here, and in the future I will try this more often.

Results are irrelevant but he ended up pushing, I called he shows Kc5c for a made flush.

funny cause since im obv. not at the level of the others here i prob have to go through this stage before i can get as good as you...???