US PPA Legislation
Anyone into the details on this, Ive only read wats on 2p2.
I mean its American legislation but it would have significant Canadian impact if passed.
Not to mention we're lemmings and the Can govt would likely follow suit relatively quickly.
I mean its American legislation but it would have significant Canadian impact if passed.
Not to mention we're lemmings and the Can govt would likely follow suit relatively quickly.
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with the conservatives, stuff like that and internet pirating laws could change in the blink of an eye, it takes time of course but once they set it in motion, its impossible even for competent voters to stop it.
So we have to borrow the US populous of incompetent voters?
im lost in the satire....um the US is a dictatorship?
or
as weed laws get harsher and harsher it becomes increasingly obvious that US polititcians are shaping our legal system and therefore government system (which is def shaped by the people (voters) left outside of the jails and their ability to express 'free speech' when such things are illegal to do so frowned upon to talk about).
This also pertains to censorship of the internet which will be next.....and leads us to wiki leaks...perhaps our savior......
ahh no...its impossible for voters to stop them, even competent ones..... which we are not.
Does anyone have coles notes on this?
My understanding is:
A) Legislation gets passed.
C) Stars and FTP want in, so they will lock out US players for 15 months.
D) During this time regulation will be developed.
E) After 15 months it is opened back up and regulated.
idk I havent read too much on it.
Even if you could, in order to withdraw from any major sites it must be a verified account. That means proof of citizenship (license, etc) and proof that you reside there (phone bill, etc).
Looks like the U.S wants the TAX MONEY of course. Also looks like they want companies already running casinos to own these sites.
FTP and Stars in order to operate legally would have to be owned by a person or group who currently holds a licence to operate a Casino or racetrack in the U.S.
If this happens, on Line sites will withhold tax from Canadian players just like if you were playing in a casino down there.
Or from any other country.
No. If they operate similar to pokerstars.fr then it will be irrelevant. Canadians will not be able to play on the US version of the site (ie pokerstars.us).
This has nothing to do with our govt. Yet. The short answer is, yes.
In the short term Canadians would still for example, play on pokerstars.com with everyone else thats not French or American.
Should the bill pass, allowing outsiders into pokerstars.us (example) is at least 3 years away.
Las Vegas Revue Journal. Search Harry Reid .
Ceasars and MGM are backing for legalized on line poker.
First 2 years Licences to be held by casino and racetrack operators or companies who manufacture and supply slot machines to casinos.
can you not just cash out to another country and transfer back to the states?
you just need someone in another country to do this for you, like an aunty...
What %age of the player pool do you think will do this? <1% easily.
For non-US players, it may become easier to make money at PS/FTP since most of the best players in the world will be booted out. For example, tournaments where the final tables had a lot of Americans may be replaced by Wetts1012, Vekked and other forumers.
For Canadians like me who don't play much at PS/FTP, I don't see much of an impact. D-Day for me won't be until after 2012 if either PartyPoker lets US sharks in to ruin my fi$h pond or the Ontario government pulls a UIGEA.
Sure????
i think it comes down to this, and it sums up all these posts. Blondefish says "If" and its not if, its when. The American government isn't worried about non taxable income. they are worried about sustaining government control. The internet grey's the 'boundries' set by the word country and begins to break down the concept of 'us and them' which government uses to control people. Attacking online gambling isn't a huge conspiracy or anything but its def a part of a larger plan to assert control on the net.
The US government will aggressively seek to control and to censor it, as they should because its our only hope. The same goes for file sharing and piracy laws. And absolutely with out a doubt they will pressure our government very hard to do the same likely before their policies even go through.
Right now we are in the process of mirroring their weed laws, even harsher compared to some states...and then we extradited Emery...we were the country that said its ok for the US to extradite someone to charge them under laws, in a jurisdiction they don't fall under, and imprison them in a country in which they did not commit the crime. << this will be very relevant
The US walks into a country under false pretenses and hangs their leader. They are out of control, even their own control.
Its hard to imagine a world without an uncensored internet (in that it seems unlikely to happen), but its no doubt on the top of the Intelligence agenda and I think that people need to protect this freedom with aggressive conviction.
If you think Assange is a saviour, then you're an idiot. Oh, and if you think there is no censorship on the internet, ask the Chinese.
Afaik, Canada has already put a similar plan in action, with provincial online poker sites to be run as a network through the Boss Media Network.
Once all of those rooms are operational (I know there was a bit of a snafu with the BC one), don't be surprised if Canada starts locking out foreign poker room providers.
no....
pokerstars is out for 15 months once the pill passes, then another 2 years for a total of 39 lol.....
The U.S. player pool of licensed Internet poker operators would be segregated from the rest of the world for at least three years from the date the first license is issued. After three years, the Commerce Department can determine to allow commingling of the U.S. player pool with players from other jurisdictions where online poker is not illegal.
.....can only be issued to applicants who have (a) owned or operated a casino or race track; or (b) manufactured and supplied slot machines to casinos; for at least 5 years prior to passage of the bill. ....
designed to favor existing U.S. casino interests at the expense of existing, powerful internet poker sites like PokerStars and Full Tilt.
"They CANNOT get around this black-out period by selling the ownership or the assets of their organization to a "clean" entity."
<<<< not quite what you suggested but likely they can't
yes the chinese and north korea are crazy, and need to get connected to the rest of the world. easy to see why the government doesn't allow/support it.
as for Assange...lets instead find out where exactly we do agree in world views, I would like to start there.....