What Table Stakes To Play?

I've been playing awhile and wonder how do you judge what tables stakes one should be playing at? Are the micro tables to loose with too many tilt players to accurately judge one's playing ability? If a person has a decent poker playing skill, what level of tables stakes would be good to start at?

Comments

  • No, if you're good you'll be able to beat the micros and judge your playing ability. What stakes you should be playing also depends importantly on your bankroll as well.
  • No amount of skill will make up for bad bankroll management. Watch or read up on Chris Fergusons bankroll management strategy. Follow that and you will never go broke. Provded you are a winning player.
  • Yeah. The micros aren't that bad and do require really good ABC poker to win. Everything has already been stated about bankroll management.
  • My bankroll management is well disciplined and haven't had to add any external funds in awhile. The area I'm having trouble with is tilt players at the tables. I keep running into tilt bandit players over and over again and take a beating.

    Here's an example:

    I'm in late position with pocket AKs I raise 3x BB
    Bandit is BB and reraises. I call
    Flop is A8K rainbow. I raise pot, bandit goes all in, I call
    Turn is 2, River is 4.
    I show two pair AK's
    Bandit show's 3 4's......

    So my bankroll keeps going up and down, some days I get a little ahead, and some days I get a little behind. It seems whatever I gain at one table, I loose at another and 9 times out of 10 times it's due to hands just like that.

    Should I have folded when he went all in?
  • TooTall wrote: »
    Should I have folded when he went all in?

    If you had a strong read he was going to draw out on you then yes.
  • darbday wrote: »
    If you had a strong read he was going to draw out on you then yes.

    Or if he hates money.
  • I'll take a stab at this. When you got your money in with top two pair you were ahead and getting your money in ahead (providing your opponents chance of hitting his outs don't beat your hand) is always the right move.

    Getting your money in ahead is not, however, always the winning move. You still want to make this move though because it has a statistical advantage and thus wins you money over the course of a large enough number of hands. If you make the same move in the same situation 100 times you will win more than times than you lose and would make money on that play.

    I agree with the above posters that micro stakes poker is beatable by playing ABC poker (with a little situational creativity) and this is the case largely because there are a lot of players making the exact play you described, these guys are your buddies and if anything you should praise their good play when they suck out on you.

    If you are not winning overall then I would suspect it is not because of players sucking out on you, unless you are in a very long downswing. If you determine that your bankroll's zero growth is not simply a matter of variance then you want to be looking for holes in your game. Again when players get their money in bad against you without lot of outs they are making you money regardless of the results of any individual hand.
  • darbday wrote: »
    If you had a strong read he was going to draw out on you then yes.

    Bandit was a loose player and when he raised before the flop I knew he didn't have any overpairs or anything too big or he would have gone all in then. When he went all in on the flop, I figured he had hit a pair or K's or A's or maybe two pair K8 or A8. I had wondered if he was holding a pair of 8's, but from how he had played other hands previously, I was pretty sure he would have gone all in preflop if he had been holding a pair of 8's. Actually, when I look back at it, I'm surprised he didn't go all in preflop with his pair of 4's.

    If I had a strong read that he was going to draw me out then yes? Do you mean fold before the flop??
  • TooTall wrote: »
    If I had a strong read that he was going to draw me out then yes? Do you mean fold before the flop??

    That was sarcasm. No one can tell if someone is going to make their draw unless they are psychic. I cannot add much to Makenga's post, pretty much sums it up.
  • I don't understand. Why are you complaining about this. You got your money in good. Variance will take care of itself. Just put in enough hands and you'll be up.
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